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30 Miles IN the City on E85 .. 20K and Under

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Ok so there are no FFVs that get 30 City yet...so which Hybrid or Smaller Car that could get in that 30 City range with a Kit and running FULL E85..

 

 

I keep going round and round .. The Ford Focus FFV should get around 23 -24 range in the City .. but 30 is really the key number

 

 

Johnny Energy.. you have an numbers from Kits you have sold on Hybrids?

 

 

 

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My 05 Escape Hybrid has a "Jonny Energy" kit.  I sometimes get over 30 mpg on the highway (a slow 60 mph)  and the city on E85.  Of course mpg "figures" depends upon a variety of items including who is driving.  An optimized E85 engine should get better mileage.

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I have read a few examples of people running E85 in Honda hybrids. Usually involving a turbo or supercharger

 

There was a study done with a Toyota Prius where it made far more power on E85. They didn't convert it. They gradually increased the Ethanol percentage over time.

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The only way to get 30+ in city stop'n go driving is with a hybrid or a vehicle with stop'n start technology. Like Billy, I've seen 30+ city and on 55 mph hiways with a tail wind.

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I don't think that would be possible in my area without an optimised engine........attached to a hybrid system of some sort.  A pure electric would be better, but I just don't fit well in the Volt or Leaf (too fat and I don't have any interest in the latter either) and I couldn't afford the Volt let alone the Tesla with the big battery.

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Yup that's it! The Prius would make a great Flexfuel because with it's high static compression and VVT-i the ECU has more room to compensates for fuel octane by adjusting valve timing. Unfortunately, Toyota wants the AT-PZEV certification so we're not going to see a factory flexfuel version without a mandate.

 

There are aftermarket kits. It's been done for years. So there is plenty of precedent. I mean, the Prius has become the ubiquitous symbol of high fuel economy. What would make a better rolling test bed for E85? The turbocharged E85 examples have been overdone at this point. The Prius is naturally aspirated.

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