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Oil blaming ethanol for refinerys closing

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. He has challenged the biofuels industry to take marketshare the old fashioned way. 

 

Pretty tall words from someone using foreign oil fields and shipping lanes which are kept open and productive through the extended umbrella of taxpayer funded US Armed Services protection.

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What a crock!

 

First- there has not been a new refinery built in over 30 years- so is ethanol to blame for that? Refining margins have not justified the massive permitting and capital costs and that is partly why no construction has occurred. Furthermore like everything else- consolidation has been occurring- it is more economical to operate a 400 million barrel/day refinery than a 75. So, refineries have been closing for years and upgrades have been enlarging the existing refineries. Next- there has been fear for the last 15 years about the new refineries popping up in low enviromental controls areas with cheap labor like India, Indonesia, China, etc-- Oil companies were saying "we cant build because these guys are going to flood the US market with refined products" In addition- since every type of crude requires a refinery design a little different- so just what will you design the refinery to process? Bonnie Light (no- Nigeria too unstable), What about many of the Arab crudes (do i really need to comment?). What about Venezuelan sour? Or tar sand oil? West Texas- the line is too far from the East Coast. Oh- and while we are talking about the East Coast- those refineries have really been stuggling for years because they have to compete with gasoline dumped in the NY Harbor from Europe that now runs on diesel and has little use for gasoline.

 

So is ethanol to blame? Well- ethanol did displace maybe 8% of gas demand BUT remember gas is a mix of stuff that also are chemical feedstocks. It is the effectiveness of the reduction of demand by the economy, the cash for clunkers, the requirement for more efficient vehicles, the drastic drop in chemical feedstock demand, added costs of regulatory requirements of sulfur reductions in fuels, and many more things I could bring up that have impacted refinery margins/demand. The author is either uniformed, told what to write by his editor, or he is simply the mouthpiece of oil.

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I knew I had sen that Name Before Conn Carroll ..he isn't employed by any of the Newspapers that that article has been in.. he works for the Heritage Foundation....PAID to write Articles that slam Ethanol as well as other topics/positions that the Heritage Foundation promotes/or fights

 

 

 

BTW.. I have seen this article at 3 different Newspapers and each label Conn Carroll as "Senior Editorial Writer"

 

But turns is he isn't employed by any of them.. but his IS employed by the Heritage foundation.. as nothing more than a Paid spammer..

 

"www.heritage.org/about/staff/c...

Conn Carroll is a Assistant Director, Strategic Communications at The Heritage Foundation.

 

"Strategic Communications"

 

It's OK to be Funded by Oil..it is NOT OK to Pretend you are a Unbiased Editorial Writer

 

Heritage Foundation has received $680,000 from ExxonMobil since 1998.

 

1992

$unknown Exxon Corporation

Source: Heritage Foundation literature, April 17, 1992

 

1992

$unknown Mobil Corporation

Source: Heritage Foundation literature, April 17, 1992

 

1998

$90,000 ExxonMobil Corporate Giving

Source: Exxon Education Foundation Dimensions 1998 report

 

2000

$105,000 ExxonMobil Foundation

45 K general support, 50 K event support

Source: ExxonMobil Foundation 2000 IRS 990

 

2001

$65,000 ExxonMobil Foundation

25K for 'climate change', 40K general funding

Source: ExxonMobil 2001 Worldwide Giving Report

 

2002

$75,000 ExxonMobil Foundation

Source: ExxonMobil 2002 Worldwide Giving Report

 

2003

$95,000 ExxonMobil Foundation

Source: ExxonMobil 2003 Worldwide Giving Report

 

2005

$30,000 ExxonMobil Foundation

Source: ExxonMobil 2005 Worldwide Giving Report

 

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nice research dan...

 

too bad no-one will ever know or care... they will go on reprinting and passing on this lie... will become part of their "lexicon of lies" to continue supporting their opposition to ethanol for the NEXT 100 years... :'(

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nice research dan...

 

too bad no-one will ever know or care... they will go on reprinting and passing on this lie... will become part of their "lexicon of lies" to continue supporting their opposition to ethanol for the NEXT 100 years... :'(

 

 

Same type of tactics that Grocers Association employed a few years back when they hired Grover Park to attack ethanol...including hiring writers to write and post articles slamming ethanol.. buying "editorial" space etc..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conn Carrolls position at the Heritage Foundation..

 

 

 

"Strategic Communications"   

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If you study the content of this article and the comments of Thomas O'Malley  you could pretty much guess where Con Carrol got his comments from in Dan's original post. Note that while Mr O'Malley is complaining of refineries not being profitable he just bought two of the three PBF refineries recently.

http://www.governorsbiofuelscoalition.org/?p=2524

Part of the article from the link above:

"

At the hearing Thursday, O’Malley told lawmakers the renewable fuel standard (RFS) was stealing the market away from refineries by requiring ethanol to replace up to 10 percent of gasoline. He also blamed U.S. EPA for what he described as “aberrant administration†of the 2007 law that created the standard.

PBF has three refineries, two of them in the Northeast and one in Ohio. O’Malley said the standard has put in doubt the future of those refineries and others along the East Coast.

“The reason for the closure of the refineries in Pennsylvania is that they didn’t make money,†O’Malley said. “And the reason that they didn’t make money is that you took away their market. You delivered the market to the farm industry.â€

O’Malley had a sympathetic ear from Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), who showed a chart at the hearing that compared spiking gas prices and the increase of ethanol blended with gasoline over the past few years." 

Mr O'Malley's refinery business;

http://www.pbfenergy.com/board-of-directors

http://www.pbfenergy.com/management-team

http://www.pbfenergy.com/company

Pretty soon Mr O'Malley will also want the Oil Sands pipeline extended to his refineries (if he is not already getting it at Toledo).

 

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Sounds like typical USA business ethics( rotten to the core). I know some of the ethanol plant big wigs feel oil is doing everything they can to make ethanol go broke so oil can buy for pennies on the dollar and then ethanol will be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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