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Renew is now re-branded GCS Fuel Depot and E85/E20 is gone

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Thanks for the update Phil.. I'll start making calls tomorrow and see if E85 is left at any of the stations

 

 

What do you think about 2-3 weeks before we start seeing Prices climb(price spread narrow) now that VEETC is gone.

 

 

I suspect in a few months with enough complaints from Retailers (no sales) and consumers (prices to high) that we may see a much stronger move for some temp blenders credit

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Not sure when E85 will jump- obviously about 34 cents worth of credit disappeared last week and the recent climb in corn will affect ethanol BUT with CBOT Feb ethanol at 2.265 and NYMEX RBOB at 2.77 ---here in Wisconsin they should not raise at all since they are already 3.019 on E85. What will have to raise is gasoline - by about another dime.

 

Where E85 is below $3 it will likely move soon- especially if they get a new load right away.

 

There has been some rumblings about classifying E85 as an alternative fuel and taxing it like the others in that class (CNG, LNG, propane, etc). This is what should have been done years ago rather than giving the credit to straight ethanol used in E10. Same issue with the states.

Had both been taxed that way (which is closer to btu basis) then there never would have been the negative publicity and E85 (and high blends made with it) would be flying out of the pump. ::)

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That is too bad... guess we all knew it was coming.

 

It is a shame that these blender pumps are being wasted... 

 

Were any of these installed with government grants?  Just curious if these pumps HAD to be used for blending mid/high level blends?  It would be nice if there was some sort of accountability to see that these government funds/grants were being used to do what they were intended to do... not just a subsidized handout to help fund a capital expense...

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Of the sites that did have grants- all are over 3 years old and thus expired due to the type they were. Some sites had no grants, some had only $3,000 and only 2 or 3 had $12,500 grants (the first ones) which were issued in 2005.

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Haven't seen the change in Appleton yet but been sick with that darn flu for 2 days. Oh well goodbye E-20 now it's back to guessing again :(

 

I was sad to see this go down...as many readers know they were the driving force in WI for E-85 and mid blends. It's not like E-85 is completely gone but now I have to kind of go out of the way to get it, and from a company that isn't as good as Renew was.

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a bit like using a team of highly trained fine royal carriage horses from the queen's own stable at Buckingham palace to pull a plow on an Amish farm!

 

Sure they could do it... but it is a bit of a waste, and a bit insulting to those that know better.

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they simply painted them to new colors and use the blend capability to blend premium and 87 together for a midblend.

Since the problem was that they weren't at a convenience store, is the calling card now they have the cheapest gas prices around?

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