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Anything better than total ethanol stock numbers?

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Makes me think Blenders Credit should be awarded at point of retail customer sale. Maybe restricted to to E85 or mid level blends with blender pumps.

 

Best to simplify the export market concerns upon purity of product and accounting demands by restricting  exports to nonfood grade ethanol. Meaning no denaturant or other contamination. It looks like this category of export product is rapidly gaining. Better for the processors to handle the export market directly with no petrol demands or distribution handling. Ethanol producers, hopefully, will pull more money for sales this way then simply hand off product to petrol for normal income share.

 

Comment on export market success: Cheers! This is a good thing. Good for ethanol that Europe has some crazy tax laws that make import ethanol sales very attractive/profitable. They are paying for our ethanol infrastructure and hiring workforce.  We should maximize this opportunity while it lasts. Better for offshore markets to be dependent on U.S. business than look to develop Brazil to meet their demands.

 

If you like ethanol fuel....you need to like high demand and high price of ethanol.  Some actually hate nonflex vehicles burning high blend ethanol as they want the fuel per their flex-fueled vehicle. This thinking a bit backwards upon economics. Higher demand could raise price temporarily, but the overall economic win for ethanol would quickly replenish supply. We as consuming public need to vote with dollars. Let chemist, inventors, business rush in to meet demand. This is counterintuitive to most as we have been trained to think good to boycott expensive product. Well, it will send a message, but they could care less. You see business is looking to make money. As much as possible in shortest amount of time, called ROI. Investors demand this as they are on path to wealth or need money for retirement. CEO's need to bolster their resume and probably paid a handsome stock option if company reports large profits. Companies will always act to profit potential. They will shut the door if the consumers stop buying and paying. They will invest and build more production if the opposite. Profit is not the enemy. Its the juice and attractant to make consuming public happy. Same time investors like their returns. Business will always try to reduce the manufacturing cost to improve profit as compared to competition. Business will always try to run to central control and minimize competition by energizing the mostly corrupt system we call politics. Large corporation rely heavily on this advantage.

 

Comment on cold winter ethanol blend sales: Guess we agree that ethanol sales decrease dramatically per the convenience, cost factors, and some engine operation problems. Factors that scream for better ICE technology improvement upon the fuel solutions. Radical improvements would occur quicker if some auto, truck, equipment, engine manufacturers would break from the petrol fuel supply and focus on ethanol high blend fuel. Regulators could greatly improve alternative fuel supply demand if awarding such technology. Maybe to award such technology a release of costly regs such as an experimental classification as compared to awarding other peoples money per the inefficient transfer of tax collection and burden.

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Comment on export market success: Cheers! This is a good thing. Good for ethanol that Europe has some crazy tax laws that make import ethanol sales very attractive/profitable. They are paying for our ethanol infrastructure and hiring workforce.  We should maximize this opportunity while it lasts. Better for offshore markets to be dependent on U.S. business than look to develop Brazil to meet their demands.

 

If you like ethanol fuel....you need to like high demand and high price of ethanol.  Some actually hate nonflex vehicles burning high blend ethanol as they want the fuel per their flex-fueled vehicle. This thinking a bit backwards upon economics.

 

No disrespect Flee..but BULLSHIT

 

Using Taxpayer money to export ethanol is  a scam  .that money should be going to ACTUALLY building the High Blend Infrastructure instead of lip service..

 

No High ethanol prices are NOT a good thing..UNLESS of course you are able to HIDE those high prices by putting just a little bit of ethanol in all the gasoline.. (yes naturally the price needs to e strong enough do actually do business)

 

I am not here to shake Pom Poms over ethanol as a additive..  This forum is for the Promotion of Ethanol as a ALTERNATIVE FUEL.. E85 and other high ethanol blends

 

A Fuel that Gives POWER back to the consumer..the Ability to CHOOSE which fuels and which Industries we wish to support..

 

To create competition between Industries..

 

Not a suck up forum for ethanol as a additive..

 

Ethanol could have a HUGE VOLUME long term but the greed has the better of them..

 

YOU CANNOT RUN any ethanol higher than E15 for the MASSES ..it just is NOT going to happen (politically).. your economics is full of holes

 

The ONLY way to REAL VOLUME is through FFVs and High Blends..

 

 

OR you can plan on exporting all  the Volume and tell us what a great thing that is  ::)

 

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