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Indiana to get Trash-To -Ethanol Plant

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Look like Indiana is also going to get a Trash to Ethanol PLant..plenty of supporters from this article

 

November 19, 2010

BY DIANE KRIEGER SPIVAK, (219) 648-3076

 

CROWN POINT -- Of the 500 seats in the Lake County Government Center's auditorium Thursday night, 400 were taken up by trades workers who came to support a proposed $254 million trash-to-ethanol plan.

 

Toting "Garbage to Ethanol vote yes" posters, they cheered prior to the start of a meeting of the Lake County Solid Waste Management District Board.

 

Earl Powers, president of Powers Energy, was on hand to answer questions that had been submitted regarding the Evansville-based company's proposed plant, which, if approved, would provide hundreds of Northwest Indiana jobs and process up to 10,000 tons of trash a day.

 

The No. 1 question, in various forms, asked if taxpayers would be liable if the plant were to fail.

 

"Taxpayers will have zero liability," said Powers engineer Ken Bosar, stressing that the project would be funded entirely with private dollars.

 

The contract has provisions to preclude liability to residents, he said.

 

The Schneider plant will also be insured against liability, Bosar said.

 

"I've got a lot of confidence that it will work," Bosar said, noting that Ineos Bio, the second largest chemical company in the world, is providing the patented process to produce the ethanol.

 

"Ineos guaranteed it will work and will stay there until it does work," Bosar said.

 

Ineos recently received permits to build the first plant in the world using the process, in Florida.

 

Financial backers won't be named until the financing is completed, although none are from Indiana, Bosar said. Paperwork should be completed around mid-December, Bosar said.

 

At the beginning of Thursday's meeting, Earl Powers announced that his company was willing to reimburse the Solid Waste District for more than $180,000 in legal fees the district has incurred in the past 31/2 years relating to the plant.

 

"We would be happy to pay whatever expenses you think you have put out for this facility," Powers told the board.

 

Powers has already contracted with three Lake County construction companies to do the work.

 

Bosar said Powers must obtain about 20 permits before the company can even break ground, which it hopes to do next summer.

 

Solid waste attorney Cliff Duggan said the there are two options to the question of ownership of the plant, which the interlocal agreement calls for the county to own.

 

One option calls for district ownership and the other is for Powers to retain ownership and control while allowing municipalities to decide how much they'll send to the facility.

 

Powers is agreeable to both and offered to appear at more public forums if requested.

 

Some questioned whether the plant would affect the water table.

 

Bosar said the plant would use 676,000 gallons of water a day, pointing out that the sod farm which sits on the site now, uses 1 million gallons a day for irrigation.

 

http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/2906618,ethanol1119.article

 

 

 

 

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The Part that is so "cool" about all these Trash to Ethanol Plants starting up and taking the lead in next gen ethanol is that Trash to Ethanol is is like the holy grail of ethanol production IMO.. far better than corn stover, switchgrass, wood even algae ... I think all of those are going to be needed and important ...but how fantastic is that image wise for ethanol  to be able to  take one of our Planets worse environmental problems ..trash,waste,garbage and turn it into fuel

 

I'd love to see Ethanol TV promo spots with that trash to ethanol "Image" ...Ethanol would immediately be able to change how tens of millions of people see ethanol and support for ethanol would surge

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I couldn't agree more... to take a liability (economically and environmentally) and turn it into an asset (both economically and environmentally)...  this is indeed the holy grail as you put it.

 

When EVERY sizable community has one of these, and large metro areas have several... we then have the geographically diverse, local production/distribution thing we have always talked about.  Local feedstock, local production, local distribution, local consumption...  It makes sense.  It is cheap.  It is efficient.  It is VERY sustainable, as well as very clean environmentally.

 

On a different note, what size (MGY) is this Lake County plant proposed to be?

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On a different note, what size (MGY) is this Lake County plant proposed to be?

 

Morning Husker..

 

The last I seen was from ethnaolproducer .. To start out, the plant will have a capacity of about 42 MMgy. At full scale, the plant will process 8,000 tons of MSW daily for 160 MMgy of ethanol

 

 

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This would be one of those two birds with one stone deals and would be great for ethanol's image. I am glad to see this and other projects like it starting to move forward.

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Was reading a PDF on INOES process-

 

They claim a 3rd gen ethanol process

 

They claim to be 3rd largest chemical company

Private company

Largest producer of ethanol in Europe

 

A slide on ethanol feedstock across country

Wood feedstock utilized more than corn 

Corn feedstock utilized only in Midwest

SMW utilized in metro areas

Hybrid systems other places

 

Process

High heat gasifier to produce CO + H2

Waste heat temperatures reclaimed for process, steam + hot water

Syngas feeds bioreactor or fermenter to produce ethanol/beer

Typical dehydration process

Products

Ethanol, but can produce methanol, propanol, butanol

Developed work upon biocatalysts enhancement for yields of co-products as well as separation/purification optimization.   

 

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Gasification process information well known and upon public domain. Syngas and bio gas production not really a good fuel until processed to remove contaminates and cleaned up. This is expensive and emits other waste streams. The biological reactor step, solves these problems. Very good to utilize the waste heat as the gas must be cooled from 1100 degrees or so.

 

Also, the gasification can utilize the high btu plastics, tires, nylons, wood, etc.. But know, this process could as well use coal. 

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