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  1. Long time lurker, infrequent poster here. I live up here in WI. and my company sells some machinery & eqpt. to BRP (Bombardier Recreational Products / Can-Am, Rotax, Evinrude, Ski-Doo) at their research facility in Sturtevant, WI. They just received an award and were named the 2014 winner of WI Business Friend of the Environment. Being a big E-85 fan, I was curious about their thoughts on ethanol, and had a LONG discussion with one of the product managers. They are going all in on Isobtanol and view ethanol as a first generation biofuel to be used primarily as an additive only. He described to me that isobutanol has a longer hydrocarbon chain length and is closer to gasoline than ethanol. He added that isobutanol has 98% of the energy density of gasoline, it does not readily absorb water and can be mixede at any proportion with gasoline. It can be shipped in the existing gasoline infrastructure and it can be produced from plant matter not connected to food supplies. BRP has spent millions (and I mean Millions) to reduce emissions on their 2 cycle (E-Tec) engines and have achieved emissions lower than a 4 cycle engine in some applications. They cosider ethanol a "past" technology fuel and consider isobutanol the "current" generation alternative fuel and are going all in toward that end. These guys are very knowledgable on fuels and are not "small potatoes" operating on the fringe. I can't tell you how adamant they are that isobutanol is the fuel of the future. Very interesting conversations.
  2. http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy12osti/52909.pdf Long winded, but worth the read.
  3. In the just arrived issue of Car & Driver magazine, there is a article about automotive alternate fuels titled "altfuelpalooza". It discusses clean diesels, biodiesel, synthetic diesel, CNG, hydrogen and of course, our favorite E 85. They state that Brazil was able to achieve energy independence by making ethanol from sugar. In their opinion, making it from corn is a much more complex and energy intensive process. "If we could produce ethanol efficiently from easier -to-grow plants, ethanol could be a very good solution". Most of the US land is unsuitable for sugar cane / sugar beet production. They added that the U.S. is using 400 million gallons of gasoline per day / 4,400 gallons per second. Any alternative fuel must be able to produce 1 million gallons per day..every day, consistently and efficiently. Until then its just a backyard project or experiment.
  4. Can some of you who are more articulate than I, please go over to the BITOG (Bob is the oil guy) forum and educate some of these guys. There is a argument going on the old food vs. fuel debate and few are defending ethanol. Its under "automotive general topics" - scandalized about ethanol.
  5. Hello alex. Like many on this forum I have experimented with different mixtures on my '97 Cad Northstar. For some reason it seems to not like more than about a E 35 mix. Other non FFV makes appear to have higher tolerances, but the GM techs tell me that the Northstar has its own "language" compared to other GM models. To answer your question, I have run an E 30 mix for thousands of miles with no ill effects. As this is a "premium" fuel engine, it just loves the E 30 mix.
  6. Re: The E-85 station listed as being in Burlington, WI. It is Wheatland Convenience Store (Marathon). Entering the address given into a GPS will put you about in the middle of nowhere. Easier to just say " the intersection of Hwy. 50 and Hwy. 83 in New Munster, WI (about 6 miles S. of Burligton, WI.). FYI. Ted
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