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  1. It always depends on the station and what they have right now and ultimately what the local Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) will allow. Here is a summary: If you need to add a new tank, typically 10,000 gallons, plan on $110,000 installed. Many stations are going to baffled larger tanks, more products, but only one tank. Cost varies on size. You can buy a blender pump that could offer E10, E15, two midlevel blends and E85 for just over $20,000 each. If you went with just a standard E10 only dispenser, it would likely cost you around $16,000 each. The standalone dispenser is ironically not that much different in price than a blender. The majority of the additional cost is from the E85 components required by UL, not necessarily the blender mechanics. Most are no longer interested in the standalone option, since the ROI is based solely on flex-fuel vehicle owners. If you buy a blender that offers the various options above, everyone from a motorcycle to an FFV can use it and therefore helps pay for the piece of equipment. Much different scenario. Robert
  2. The State of South Dakota has announced more funding for ethanol infrastructure, which now includes underground storage tanks. The funding has successfully placed 60 blender pumps throughout the state, but most remain in the eastern half. The program hopes that will change in the future and that the new category for underground storage tanks will help. The state has a total of $400,000 available for blender pumps, and an additional $300,000 for storage tanks. Applications for both are due by June 30, 2015. For more information, visit: http://bit.ly/17QYEzq. Please share with your contacts in South Dakota, let's make sure there are plenty of applications to utilize the funding. Robert
  3. All: You have my personal and professional commitment that we will dedicate the resources necessary to advance this platform, along with all of the other assets. Please don't hesitate to contact me directly with ideas and/or concerns. My email is rwhite@ethanolrfa.org. I want to thank Dan for his leadership and commitment. We are also very happy that Aaron will be joining our effort too. We will continue to provide updates as they are warranted. Robert
  4. Here are the latest stations not in the database that have been confirmed by DOE. Robert CORRECTIONS: Ionia, MI - Address should read State vs Stare ADDITIONS: Thorntons #707 2356 W Hillsborough Ave Tampa, FL 33603 813-882-8444 27.9958047 -82.383865 Sheetz Store #58 4736 US Hwy 29 N Greensboro, NC 27405 336-621-4575 36.1657497 -79.717906 Lewis & Clark Mini Mart 89001 Hwy 121 Wausa, NE 68786 402-748-3661 42.5702561 -97.5247875 Young's Family Market 9277 State Route 159 Kingston, OH 45644 740-642-2288 39.4627722 -82.9234037 REMOVE: Salmon Oil Co 500 S Challis St Salmon, ID
  5. Protec Fuel Management just announced the following two new stations offering both E15 and E85 in Georgia. Both are operational. Mountain Express - Quick Stop Food Store 855 S Cobb Dr. Marietta, GA Mountain Express - Food Mart 405 S. Walnut St. Greensboro, GA
  6. I receive monthly reports from DOE on stations that were added or deleted. They are gathered through various sources and verified by a DOE contractor. Their process is typically very slow, but thorough. I wanted to report that the following 19 stations were not located in the database. Pride of Lake County BP 20915 Rand Rd Kildeer, IL 60047 847-550-8392 42.209007 -88.11143 Raceco 4502 Indianapolis Blvd East Chicago, IN 46312 219-398-2063 41.631882 -87.48126 Family Express 22 E 400 S La Porte, IN 46350 219-393-3318 41.545907 -86.7 All Star 5208 Broadway Merrillville, IN 46410 219-980-3050 41.523487 -87.3365 Speedway #1426 6325 E Lincoln HWY Merrillville, IN 46410 219-945-1660 41.470039 -87.25948 Clark 10350 Woodward Ave Detroit, MI 48203 313-869-1855 42.418693 -83.10622 Meijer #257 1201 Lears Rd Petoskey, MI49770 231-348-6100 45.345824 -84.96451 Kwik Trip #250 1509 10th Pl NE Austin, MN 55912 507-437-6702 43.657044 -92.99363 Kwik Trip #230 4978 Miller Trunk HWY Hermantown, MN 218-729-7004 43.082916 -88.25319 Holiday Station #338 3225 40th Ave NW Rochester, MN 55901 507-282-1528 44.057362 -92.52153 Allied Energy (may be duplicate with Cenex listed) Highway 281 & Highway 13 Edgeley, ND 58433 701-493-2266 46.259169 -99.5625 Cenex 401 HWY 2 SW Rugby, ND 58368 701-776-6220 48.366647 -100.0007 Petro Serve 1020 8th St Ave SW Valley City, ND 58072 701-845-5808 46.912771 -98.01186 Enerbase Intersection of Highway 83 & Highway 200 Washburn, ND 58577 701-462-3971 47.302992 -101.0365 Speedway #1219 799 Arlington Rd Brookville, OH 45309 937-833-4680 39.842648 -84.42474 Stripes #1033 7784 Fairbanks N Houston Rd Houston, TX 77040 713-856-9434 29.894022 -95.52475 Stripes #1036 14550 JFK Blvd Houston, TX 77032 281-776-5225 29.930163 -95.33122 Valero Corner Store #1564 1301 N Loop 340 Lacy Lakeview, TX 76705 254-867-1407 31.581198 -97.07553 Kwik Trip 305 W Prairie St. Boscobel, WI 53805 608-375-0119 43.140708 -90.71023
  7. Here is my second part of new E85 stations that I did not find in the database. All of these stations are also offering E15 to 2001 and newer vehicles: PetroServe, 309 6th Street SE, Mandan, ND 58554 PetroServe, 205 NP Avenue, Fargo, ND 58103 Cenex, 9245 Hwy 1, Langdon, ND 58249 Uncle Neal's/Phillips 66, 2700 Plum Creek Pkwy, Lexington, NE 68850 Navarre Minnoco, 3360 Shoreline Dr., Navarre, MN 55391
  8. Post below is accurate, you typically gain 1.5 octane points with an additional 5% ethanol. Keep in mind, every station offering E15 today is diluting a higher blend to make it. All of these stations are using E85, but that could be made from unleaded or natural gasoline. Could also vary tremendously in ethanol content depending on the region. We encourage any station wanting to post a minimum octane guarantee above one octane point higher than E10 to have it tested. The station is Plymouth was advertised as VIP Minnoco, not sure how I didn't get that down in my original post - sorry. Not all Minnoco stations offering E15 also have E85, some chose E30 as their highest ethanol blend. Not something I support, but others are pushing this effort in the ethanol industry. My email is rwhite@ethanolrfa.org, if anyone wants more information. I will share what I can.
  9. Here are some new stations across the country that now offer E15 and E85 that were not listed in the existing stations. There are several hundred more in the works. This is not a complete list, but all I am going to get to this week. Have a great weekend. Robert Mapco 380 Warfield Boulevard Clarksville, TN 931-551-8701 Latitude: 36.569476472986 Longitude: -87.287278175354 Mapco 404 South Broadway Portland, TN 615-325-3940 Latitude: 36.576201517376 Longitude: -86.513822972775 Valero 401 South 4th Street Mapleton, IA 712-882-1012 Latitude: 42.161888440999235 Longitude: -95.79352587461472 Star Energy 903 32nd Avenue Spencer, IA 888-437-3835 Latitude: 43.1473836649635 Longitude: -95.19230872392654 K&H Cooperative 101 First Street NE Buffalo Center, IA 641-562-2029 Latitude: 43.3859709739495 Longitude: -93.94780799746513 Cenex (Chandler Coop) 320 Trosky Road Edgerton, MN 507-442-4971 Latitude: 43.87794513707548 Longitude: -96.13426968455315 Minnoco 1214 Southview Boulevard South Saint Paul, MN 651-450-2263 Latitude: 44.8891716797265 Longitude: -93.04977223277092 Holiday 16825 County Road 24 Plymouth, MN 763-551-3914 Latitude: 45.019640106096 Longitude: -93.494381904602 (interesting... almost directly west of the Meijer in Gaylord, halfway between the equator and the north pole) Minnoco 9950 County Road 9 Plymouth, MN (having some trouble with this one... is it a former Holiday, or the location listed as "VIP Car Wash"?) Red Lake County Coop 106 Highway 59 South Brooks, MN 218-698-4271 Latitude: 47.813058451517 Longitude: -95.999028682709 Minnoco 12908 Minnetonka Boulevard Minnetonka, MN 952-933-7788 Latitude: 44.941883438960 Longitude: -93.443570137024 Minnoco 2178 Marshall Avenue Saint Paul, MN 651-644-3436 Latitude: 44.948201402406 Longitude: -93.192193508148 Minnoco 3360 Shoreline Drive Orono, MN 952-471-9082 Latitude: 44.934922446976934 Longitude: -93.60875934362411 (pics thanks to user insiderperson on GasBuddy)
  10. Don't forget, if they are installing E15, E85 comes with it. You get both unless they already offer E85. Right now no terminal in the country offers pre-blended E15. So, it has to be done at retail by diluting E85 with E10.
  11. I have posted on this before, but it would technically be a Clean Air Act violation to intentionally misfuel a vehicle that is not approved for the fuel in question. It is why we now have common hose rules for E15 and E10/E0. Those include the 4-gallon minimum and the dedicated fueling position options. Not a single person has ever been charged or fined, but the law is there. Same would be true of putting E85, E30 or E50 in a non-flex-fuel vehicle.
  12. You should have received. No credit needed, just doing my best to keep all data as accurate and current as possible. EPA is using this against us, and we are trying to make sure they cannot in the future. All the best, Robert
  13. I have received two new updates from prominent retailers on their E85 station locations, thought it might be of interest. Who is the appropriate email recipient for those to ensure the station database here is accurate? Once I have that, I will forward and then continue to share our updates like we do with AFDC and others. Thanks, Robert White RFA
  14. The stations they have discussed to date have three tanks. They plan to offer E10, E15 and E85. That, of course, could always change.
  15. Murphy is planning a few more locations with both E15 and E85 in Iowa, and they are still shooting for early February. Beyond that, they have stayed quiet on their plans, like most retailers. All of these stations, with the exception of one, will be in front of a Walmart Supercenter. As for one question about their first station, it is not a blender pump like we are used to in the Midwest. Last I heard, their stations in Iowa will all be using an old tank previously used for midgrade for their E15. Shouldn't be any blending at the station.
  16. If folks still are interested, been out on vacation and just getting my desk cleared, here is the information that I referred to earlier on FTC labeling: http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus30-labeling-alternative-fuels There are several links on color, type, font and size required, but it is pretty straight forward. If an alternative fuel is sold, in this case E85, it has to be labeled with the minimum ethanol content, which is also defined in the language here as 70%. As for enforcement of the FTC requirements, it would fall under the Division of Enforcement, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Federal Trade Commission, Washington, D.C. 20580 (202.326.2996), or your state or local weights and measures office. If neither care, or knock on the right door, all is good. If anyone has any questions on this topic, feel free to email me at rwhite@ethanolrfa.org.
  17. Speedway was cautioned, and provided the FTC language that does not allow it. Thus far, they have chose to leave it that way and until a regulator takes issue, doubt they change. They are taking full advantage of that ~34% range in ethanol to make the most money while all being sold as E85. The percentage of ethanol in each load they purchase could vary based on economics. I don't want people to get confused, the RFA, nor anyone else, is going to call them out to regulators, because we are happy they sell our fuel(s). The caution we provided was simply to make sure they understood the legality of labeling. In the end, I have helped hundreds and hundreds of stations put in E85 over the last decade. The number that care about regulations until they are an issue are few. Doesn't make it right. All I was trying to do was provide the background. Have a good day.
  18. You can label ANY blend of ethanol above 51% as flex-fuel, but that doesn't mean E51 is also E85. You can even label anything above 10.5% as flex-fuel too, but again, it is not E85. It doesn't have to be the FTC, local fire marshal or state fuel inspector can bag the pump, if they choose. It has happened before, and expect it will happen again as people interpret the change this way, including DOE.
  19. Jim: I respectfully disagree, my co-worker wrote the changes. ASTM does not have the authority, nor have they made a recommendation on how these fuels are labeled at retail. All labeling requirements come from FTC, National Conference of Weights & Measures (NCW&M), and/or state regulations. To date, E51 should not be labeled E85. It is illegal. As I mentioned earlier, we expect FTC and NCW&M to make a decision on this issue in the coming months, I am personally involved with the effort, but I expect the outcome will be the same as it is today. E85 will remain E70 and above, and E51 and above will be flex-fuel.
  20. Let me clarify, you can sell E51, but it should not be labeled as E85. You would be violating FTC regulations. The ASTM spec 5798 specifically called out E85 in Class 4 with a minimum of 70% to protect those needing E85. Most of the time that is a federally-regulated fleet. We at the RFA oppose E85 having the ability to contain 51%-85% ethanol for many reasons, you mentioned a few. People should know what they are getting and if that information is blinded to the consumer, we know how the retailer will price it more often than not no matter what us actually in the tank or being dispensed. We know that some retailers are mislabeling it as you mentioned, and we are reaching out to those as they are found.
  21. Just FYI, it has and still remains 70% for ethanol to be considered an alternative fuel in the eyes of the multiple definitions found at the federal level. That said, current efforts are underway through back channels to change that to 51%, which would reflect the current ASTM 5798 spec that covers ethanol blends from 51% to 85%. Keep in mind, 51% would not be E85, it will likely be referred to as a "flex-fuel". E85 will likely stay the same, minimum of 70%, but this will allow lower levels of ethanol to capture available incentives and also fulfill federal fuel usage requirements should E85 not be available.
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