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  1. Could have sworn this was in the database, but apparently not. New Thornton’s station to add in Bellwood, Illinois. Brand new build that’s been open dating back to at least May. Got E85 in the rental there yesterday Thorntons 1125 South 25th Street Bellwood, IL 60104 708-649-3090 Latitude: 41.872229356386 Longitude: -87.862848043441
  2. Oh I’ve been to the Speedway in Tinley Park, but even with an extra set of E85 pumps at that station, it is a pain in the behind to get in and out of. The intersection there is always slammed, and good luck getting a spot at a pump. Very much worth the extra few cents to go to the Gas N Wash. The free car wash also makes up for it, and I’m doing business with a place that actually wants to sell E85. Speedway, through their continued installation of just one E85 pump (technically two) out of 12-18 makes it clear that they do not care about how hard it is for so many of us to get to the E85 pump. When I finally do make it out to the Pacific Northwest (Idaho and Montana have a max speed limit of 80!), I’ll be carrying at least 20 gallons of E85 in the trunk. I’ll also have to not only call and confirm that they have E85 and that the pump is in working order (had that happen in October where I confirmed they had E85 but got there to find the pump was out of order). As far as E15, I’d be happy to express my feelings via DM. Let’s just say I’m using E85, and only E85.
  3. Well hey, congrats and welcome to the E85 club! As I mentioned earlier, I’m going on 6 years with the stuff. My very first car, a 2008 Chrysler Sebring, was flex fuel. I sold it to my dad when I got my Charger, which I ended up giving up about 3 years later in September 2017. I’ve been struggling without a car, and have been trying to save up for a down payment. Using my dad’s when I can. Oh trust me, I know how to find the cheapest E85 price and maximize the cost benefit. I’ll use E85 no matter what - and will never switch to gasoline under any circumstances - but I won’t shy away from reaping the rewards. Back when the Yellow Hose program (they sell pre-blended E85 directly from an ethanol plant 45 minutes to my west to retailers across Michigan, on the condition that they keep a minimum fixed price spread) had E85 at a $1 below regular, gasoline prices began plummeting. The spread didn’t drop below $1 at these stations until the New Year in 2015, so I got to see some pretty awesome E85 prices! Do you have any idea how weird it was to see, and how hard it was for a then 21-year-old kid to wrap his mind around, the Total Gallon amount exceeding the Total Sale? Trust me, I only had $12 at the time, and I still can’t believe even 4 years later that I couldn’t stuff $12 worth of fuel in a 19.1 gallon tank. Last June, I had someone challenge me on Twitter to find a lower E85 price than he had. He found $1.27. Darned if I didn’t make a 90-minute each-way trip to the downriver Detroit community of Woodhaven to get $1.17 (before a 3 cent/gallon discount). I take E85 challenges seriously. Oh and as for E10 being that cheap in February 2016, well. Found plenty of that too! Oh and I can personally attest to the fact that this wasn’t an error with their sign. This station in Lapeer, Michigan (which no longer sells E85) really did have a spread nearly $2 in the negative in February 2016. I have a station I always go to in Tinley Park IL any time I’m near Chicago. It’s the Gas N Wash at 19420 South Harlem in Tinley Park (Exit 148A off I-80, right at the Cook/Will county line). Not only do they have 6 pumps with E85, but you get a free top-of-the-line wash when you purchase at least 12 gallons of E85! Feel free to shoot me a message here, I’d love to connect with ya. To make sure we’re on the same page, which road are you talking about in that last paragraph there? Michigan spends the least per capita on roads of any state in the country. So naturally, many of our freeways are poorly designed and are prone to massive pileups. Oh, and we have the highest auto insurance premiums of any state too.
  4. It’s funny, because when I began using E85 back in December 2012, one of the major appeals to it was in fact the fixed price it had (I’ve long since discovered many other benefits to the fuel, that more than make up for losing that fixed price concept). At one point in June 2013, gasoline spiked to $4.29, and E85 was at $2.99 (yes, to all the people complaining that gasoline is getting expensive at $2.99, remember where it was just a few years ago?). However with Speedway entering - and subsequently dominating - the E85 market here around Lansing, a fixed price spread is now the law of the land. So I have to rush to get fuel before a hike like everyone else. I should say, on a slightly unrelated note, I go by South Bend/Mishawaka any time I go out to Chicago. Even though the 80/90 isn’t in the best of shape, it’s not a threat to my personal safety like I-94 in Michigan is. I’ve not kept up on E85 availability in northern Indiana like I used to because of how few interchanges the 80/90 has on it. I have a fuel stop in Tinley Park IL I always go to. Past couple times I’ve gotten fuel in the city of Mishawaka, whose name is hard for me to say without the occasional chuckle, I’ve gotten it at the Marathon on Cleveland Road just off the Indiana 331 exit. Good to see you guys have some competition.
  5. After much waiting, we got two more Speedway stations with E85 that raise an eyebrow for a couple reasons. In Lansing: This Speedway station is about 300 feet from a Meijer station which filled in a sizable E85 gap in the area back in September 2014. Until now, Meijer has only set competitive price spreads when Speedway had exceptional price spreads elsewhere in the area (back when it was close to $1). That was due to a lack of direct competition in that part of the area. Now however, Meijer is competing directly with Speedway. Good to know though that Speedway still doesn’t care how hard it is for some of us to get to the E85 pump. I guess they can only be bothered to install one pump out of 7 double-sided pumps. Heres the station info: Speedway 6041 South Pennsylvania Avenue Lansing, MI 517-318-3327 Latitude: 42.669459915038 Longitude: -84.537767171860 ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ and the other location, in Charlotte, fills in a major gap to the southwest of Lansing. I’ve been wanting E85 in Charlotte for a long time. This makes 17 total E85 stations in the Lansing metro, and 10 Speedway locations with the fuel. Here’s the info: Speedway 687 Lansing Street Charlotte, MI 517-543-5800 Latitude: 42.574242030048 Longitude: -84.821791648865
  6. Can we merge La Porte and Laporte, Indiana? Two names for the same city. Correct spelling is La Porte, with the space.
  7. On my stroll off the toll road back in March, I went back east to intercept the Eastern/Central Time Zone sign at the 80/90 toll road, when I happened to run into this Marathon station owned by the chain Gallops. They have been adding E85 and trucker conveniences (i.e. diesel exhaust fluid) at several of their stores. Marathon 1877 West US-20 La Porte, IN 219-362-8505 Latitude: 41.685903095650 Longitude: -86.737406551838
  8. Because there aren’t a million places to buy diesel, EZMart, which acquired the Blodgett Shell chain in Michigan a few years back, has been replacing E85 at several stores with either diesel or E0. The Shell locations in Ithaca and Mount Pleasant now sell diesel, and the location in Coleman sells E85. All 3 no longer sell E85.
  9. We too just saw a hike to $3.09/gallon for Regular E10 here in the mitten. If you exclude the handful of stations which spiked above $3 back in 2015 (this was not adopted en masse, so I don't count it), this is the first time we've seen regular spike above $3/gallon since the oil glut began in 2014. Not to brag, but one location in the Lansing Metro has not touched their E85 price since February.
  10. Two years after pulling this stunt, I noticed the freeway sign for the Speedy Q in Lapeer had a new, more reflective diesel banner at the bottom of the Speedy Q logo (as opposed to the E85 label). Sure enough, they no longer sell E85. Given that the hoses and nozzles are now red, I can only assume that they’ve succumbed to the E0 craze. But it hasn’t happened yet. As of tonight, they’ve just dropped E85.
  11. I was in nearby Miner last month. Frankly the spread was exactly what I expected from Break Time.
  12. I win! $1.14 spread at Speedway 8789 in Lansing, before 6 cents/gallon in reward and prepay discounts.
  13. I should also note that once again, those lucky ducks in Illinois are even luckier... they have $1.10 spread at Speedway stations there.
  14. I first ran into the $1 spread back on the 2nd at the Speedway station in old town (the first Lansing area station to get the fuel, back in 2013), and initially thought it was a glitch. The station on south Cedar now has it for $1.39. Guess where I’m getting fuel next! For a while there, I actually got cheaper fuel in Texas than I had last month here.
  15. This is absolutely inexcusable. I've been sounding the horn for years that northern Michigan, effectively from the 45th parallel northward, has a massive E85 gap that is essentially prohibitive to those who want to use the fuel. This has slowly been changing for the better, with Meijer and Speedway either opening new stations or adding E85 to existing stores in places like Cheboygan, Gaylord, Alpena, and Grayling. However, it has come to my attention (and I confirmed by phone this evening) that Meijer stations which opened up within the last month in Escanaba and the Canadian border town of Sault Ste Marie, do NOT have E85. This is unfortunate, and inexcusable. Meijer was the first major company to commit to E85, over a decade ago in 2006. One might say that it has always been prohibitive to sell E85 in the Upper Peninsula. Demand is too low in part due to lower population density and FFV density. A station near Marquette which dropped E85 in recent years, mentioned to my dad when he was up there that a supplier in the roundabout-obsessed city of Green Bay was charging them $4.20/gallon for E85. There is no production of ethanol in the Upper Peninsula, and any sold there is typically trucked in from out of state. But here's where I call the bluff of Meijer or anyone who might attempt to justify this. Meijer is one of the largest corporations in Michigan - after all, the Meijer family themselves is in fact the richest family in the pothole state. So Meijer can afford to take a loss. Regardless of that however, Meijer has the capability of negotiating with suppliers in ways that smaller retailers can not. What I want to know is why I STILL have to carry 40 gallons of E85 in the trunk any time I go to the UP, and why no one in the ethanol industry besides me is sounding the horn on this one.
  16. So I just got off the phone with a newly opened RaceTrac in Fort Myers, FL. Those of us either within the ethanol community or close to it know about the news RaceTrac has made with their rapid adoption of E15. I've been largely silent on the issue because of a number of personal matters that have made life difficult of late, but I must vocalize my views on this. I'm fully in support of E15. I think it's fantastic especially for those who want to support ethanol, but simply can not use E85. However, I can not emphasize this enough. I DO NOT SUPPORT E15 AT THE EXPENSE OF E85! I was informed that this RaceTrac station only carries E15, NOT E85. I've checked street view at this and other RaceTrac stations - all orange E15 nozzles. My further concern is that RaceTrac has made the same move at the other stations - as far as new stations go, at least. I was told by tweet from an ethanol exec that 90% of new RaceTrac stations do indeed get E85. This tweet was later deleted. I asked RaceTrac about a new store going in around Deltona, FL, and they replied that E15 will be replacing E85. Upon my asking them to clarify whether it was just this store or at all E85 stores, they did not reply. Remember Murphy USA? They've been silent lately. They had pledged support of ethanol-based fuels E85 and E15. I don't know what has gone on behind the scenes other than the fact that Walmart has cut ties with Murphy USA, but I'm seeing new stations open that do not carry E85 or E15. For instance, I've visited Murphy USA locations in the Michigan cities of Tawas, Gaylord, and Charlotte. All have brand-new digital LED pumps, but no sign of either E85 or E15. One Walmart station in Garland, Texas has E15... but no E85. This post is not an attack on E15. I want to make that clear. But this apparent clandestine effort to replace E85 with E15 is inexcusable, deplorable, and potentially feckless. E15 should be an option, NOT a replacement. Regardless of RaceTrac's apparent decision to swap E85 for E15 - which seems to be lauded more than it is examined - there is a shift of marketing and support from E85 over to E15. I'm open to corrections here, but where is the support for E85 from the ethanol community? Where is the outrage at RaceTrac's decision to replace E85 with E15, instead of selling the two fuels together?
  17. You're actually giving them a lot of time. I was just told by Speedway corporate that they are planning on opening this store this coming Thursday (12/22) around noon or so. I was extremely excited to learn they were going to install E85 here because as you mentioned, Livingston County is not a great county for E85. That was, I was excited until I learned that Speedway still could only be bothered to install one pump. 18 dispensers, and they could only be bothered to put E85 in at 2. You know how incredibly busy M-59 and that whole region are. Good freaking luck getting to the E85 pump. So I lost a lot of interest in that station. That said, going off topic, Mugg and Bopps is building a new station (presumably a Sunoco) on M-59 and Clark Road, about a mile and a half east of US-23. I have confirmed with Mugg and Bopps that that store will indeed carry E85.
  18. Figured I'd update this number tonight. Speedway has slowed down with E85 installs lately, but they are definitely adding it to new stores and renovated stores. The number of Speedway stations has risen to 326, but because of all the non-E85 Hess stores that have been brought into the Speedway chain, the percentage of Speedway stores which has E85 has fallen to around 12%... despite the increase in the number of E85 locations. https://1drv.ms/x/s!AsE4TXYLLOQFasiNsfkdpD0bSIU
  19. Hmm, don't tell me we're talking the Kum & Go on Grand Prairie Parkway in Waukee.
  20. All new and rebuilt Speedway stations will have E85. The only concern I have is how many E85 pumps it will have. I'm praying it'll have E85 at every pump like the Batavia, IL store does.
  21. I have seen this label popping up everywhere, even at stations that have had E85 for years, that says something to the effect of "contains 51%-83% ethanol. For flex fuel vehicles only. May harm other engines". Turns out, there is a reason for that. http://www.cspdailynews.com/fuels-news-prices-analysis/fuels-news/articles/ftc-finalizes-ethanol-labels
  22. I caught a tip about this via GasBuddy. I go to Livingston County frequently, but I typically avoid Hartland. Not anymore! I'm elated for this store to get E85. I'm told however that it isn't scheduled to open until two days after Christmas. I saw this story that says it is expected to be the first of its kind. More to come. For now, here is the news story I found about it, from my favorite radio station. http://whmi.com/news/article/26277
  23. So this is interesting! I did some mousing around on the Twitter machine this evening, and found out that Gate has opened a brand new store in northeastern Florida, just a couple exits down I-295 from the RaceTrac on 103rd street. As it turns out, Gate has included E15 and E85 at this new station! Gate had been changing out all of their E85 pumps for ethanol free. As soon as I get a chance to get a recon of Florida, I will have to check this one out. More details here.
  24. Here thankfully, the pricing has remained quite competitive, even for stations which don't have a direct supply deal in place. So that's not as much a concern in my neck of the woods thankfully... except for as mentioned, the thumb. As for running with some gasoline, that's not actually true. At least in this part of the country, natural gasoline is used as the hydrocarbon. Now, this BP at the heart of this subject is supplied by Corrigan Oil which is based out of Brighton - about 45 miles to my southeast. So I really don't know where exactly Corrigan gets their ethanol, what the blending levels and feedstocks are, and how much they themselves are paying to receive the fuel and distribute it. I'd like to get in touch with Corrigan, and it would be immense if they could work with the ethanol plant in Lake Odessa.
  25. So this is an oddball. I've said that I would sooner drink gasoline than put it in my car. So naturally, I don't take to it too terribly well when gasoline - especially BP-branded gasoline - makes it into my car's tank. I drive an average of 50,000 miles per year, so I felt like doing a price run in the Thumb of Michigan, which rarely receives spotlight from the ethanol community abroad. I got caught in an April snowstorm that clobbered the Thumb on the afternoon and evening of Saturday, the 2nd. I decided to get fuel at the BP in Bad Axe. This is not something I can recall doing before. After getting fuel, I had to walk in to get a copy of my receipt. I immediately noticed that the fuel purchased read "E15". I mentioned something to the cashier, who said she'd say something to the station owner. Not long after I got fuel, I realized that there was no way for me to make it home, so I got snowed in. While in my hotel room, I realized that I got E15. The thumb region, when it is mentioned, is consistently known for price spreads so negative, you wonder why they bother to sell E85. In just the two times I've been up there this month, I've seen several FFVs fill with gasoline. That night, I realized that the E85 and E15 stickers had been switched. Even though this station had a negative spread, it didn't occur to me when I pulled up to the pump and saw the cheaper price next to an E85 sticker. I'm used to decent price spreads where I live. I quickly diluted it the next day with E85. See how I got confused? It has since been addressed, and the E85 price was lowered a bit.
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