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gasisoutrageous last won the day on February 15 2016

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About gasisoutrageous

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    The Hiro Hamada of the ethanol world!
  • Birthday 06/10/1993

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    Lansing, Michigan
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    Passionate about E85! Also Big Hero 6 and Modern Family.
  1. Hi Robert, It looks like the name of the Meijer at 5307 West Saginaw Highway was changed to Citgo... it's actually a Meijer. The one you want to change is the Sunoco at 4819 West Saginaw Highway in Lansing. Please change 4819 West Saginaw Highway from a Sunoco to a Citgo and 5307 West Saginaw Highway from Citgo to Meijer. Here's how it should look: Meijer 5307 West Saginaw Highway Lansing, MI 517-886-8129 Citgo 4819 West Saginaw Highway Lansing, MI 517-321-8800 (This listing doesn't have a phone number currently) (Also don't forget to adjust the coordinates for this one. All other updates look great)
  2. Been a while since I’ve posted, but given the new (to me) Taurus I bought and drove home from Ohio this past Monday, I had to do some driving. I had apparently been living under a rock the last 3 years in the time I had been without an automobile. I had no knowledge that a brand new Sunoco was being built on the north side of the area, a couple miles north of the airport. They have E85 at FOUR pumps! 90-octane ethanol-free is also available, for more than twice the price of E85. Here are the details: Sunoco 3955 Ernest Way Lansing, MI 48906 517-730-1670 Latitude: 42.810750 Longitude: -84.601578 I also have a couple updates for stations around Lansing: 1. I had posted back in March about a Sunoco here which had E85 advertised in their sign for over 5 years, but the price was blank and they hadn’t gotten the fuel until February. They have since branding back to Citgo. Please change the brand to Citgo. Also, the coordinates are off. Please adjust them to the following: Latitude: 42.740764 Latitude: -84.617850 2. The Speedway at 6041 South Pennsylvania Avenue is way off. Please adjust the coordinates to the following: Latitude: 42.669570 Longitude: -84.537783 Thank you!
  3. The coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic is affecting all of us - in one way or another. I am off work through at least mid-April - and it’s looking like that may be extended per Governor Whitmer’s order. Its effect on the economy and society of the entire world can not be understated. However one issue is catching my eye that few around me are paying attention to - ethanol pricing. In the wake of the disappearing sedan crisis (where we have suddenly decided we need SUVs, trucks, and minivans), coinciding with difficulty in finding an FFV, ethanol pricing seems to be struggling to compete with gasoline. The other day, checking Speedway fuel prices as I routinely do, I noticed something odd - E85 is 5 cents MORE per gallon than regular gasoline. Now at first, I thought this was a fluke. After all, I made noise here, at the station itself, and with Speedway corporate about store #2213 at 6329 West Saginaw Highway in Lansing. Back in 2014 and 2015, I caught spreads that looked as ugly as this one the day after Christmas in 2014. But it was just a fluke. As 2015 wore on, and even with gasoline plummeting to near $1/gallon in February 2016, Speedway still maintained a $0.20 spread. However, after checking through as many store prices as possible through the Speedway app, I can confirm that they are selling at a negative spread at stores in several states. I saw as much this evening at the Old Town Speedway on the north side of Lansing. I first noticed Speedway sold E85 at select stores near I-94 in 2012, and then their numbers proliferated in 2013 and 2014. At no time since they began selling the fuel here have I seen a negative spread at Speedway en masse.
  4. Back in December 2014 while I still had a car, I was driving out to the ethanol plant in Lake Odessa when I noticed a price sign on West Saginaw that looked different. Now I can notice an E85 pump from a hundred yards away while going 70, and I know how each brand of station specifies the designs on everything from the pumps, to canopy height, to price sign appearance. So naturally, the white "E85" slot followed by "not a Citgo fuel" stuck out like a sore thumb. When I see a new station, or one with the tell-tale signs of conversion to E85, I am almost legally required to do some recon work and check it out. I spoke to the cashier who believed that they would be converting the kerosene pump and tank, but he wasn't sure when or even if they would actually be getting E85. As the years go by, I eventually dismiss the possibility that this station would even receive E85 fuel... making me wonder why it was ever put in their price sign. Last year I stopped in to ask for an update. That same employee I talked to in 2014 was there again, and mentioned something about a contract they had with a supplier, and again wasn't sure when or even if they would be getting the fuel. Just last week, I had found out about a town hall meeting that Delta township was going to be holding at the nearby Delta Township library regarding a proposal to constrict traffic flow on Michigan Avenue with bike lanes. After attending to speak out against the move, I walked down to the bus stop that happened to be in front of the Citgo, and I couldn't believe my eyes. There was that bright yellow pump, and $1.99 next to the E85 slot on the price sign. I couldn't believe it finally happened! Again, it only took 5 years, but they finally got E85 fuel installed. Combined with the nearby Meijer and the Speedway station down the pike, there are now 3 E85 stations within just over a mile on Saginaw Highway (Michigan 43/Business Loop I-69). I stopped in today to jot down the phone number and ask about it. The cashier said they had had the fuel for about a month. Here is the information: Sunoco 4819 West Saginaw Highway Lansing, MI 48917 517-321-8800 Latitude: 42.740807 Longitude: -84.617737
  5. Made sure to check out a couple of new stations in Chicagoland when I was out there earlier this month with the Impala rental I had. Found one that I thought was unlisted, but is in fact on E85 prices. However, I could not find this particular Shell station. It is a nice, new, but small and packed station on Mall Drive and East Higgins Road (Illinois Route 72). It is another one of those Shell "Clearflex E85" stations. When I saw the price, I thought it was excessively high. Talked with Joe over in West Chicago, and he and I had different theories. I thought it was the owner of the Shell station DGAF about E85 (because this acronym involves profanity, I will direct anyone who is curious about it to look it up), but Joe thought it was a "because Schaumburg" tax. Whichever is the case, here is the information to have the station listed: Shell 517 Mall Drive Schaumburg, IL 60173 847-517-9132 Latitude: 42.038765500162 Longitude: -88.038395941257
  6. I rented a 2019 Impala and finally got a chance to see a Speedway station I had caught wind of being gutted and rebuilt. It happened to be on Hill Road, right along the usual route I take around Flint to check prices. Wow is this station a stark contrast to the hole that used to be there. Here is the station information: Speedway 1435 East Hill Road Grand Blanc, MI 48439 810-695-1909 Latitude: 42.944437894744 Longitude: -83.675835281610 Also, I should note that there are two listings for the Speedway at 2169 West Bristol Road in Flint. One has a phone number listed, and the other does not. Please be sure to delete the duplicate listing which is not associated with a phone number.
  7. At a 60 cent spread here in Michigan, Speedway is once again the best game in town price-wise. The yellow-hose price spread here does fluctuate a bit, but it is far more consistent than the Speedway price spread. I will say, and while this is not totally pertinent, I had no idea GetGo still had even a shred of interest in E85, considering how it looks like they’ve been ripping it out at a lot of stores.
  8. Could have sworn this was in the database, but apparently not. New Thornton’s station to add in Bellwood, Illinois. Brand new build that’s been open dating back to at least May. Got E85 in the rental there yesterday Thorntons 1125 South 25th Street Bellwood, IL 60104 708-649-3090 Latitude: 41.872229356386 Longitude: -87.862848043441
  9. Oh I’ve been to the Speedway in Tinley Park, but even with an extra set of E85 pumps at that station, it is a pain in the behind to get in and out of. The intersection there is always slammed, and good luck getting a spot at a pump. Very much worth the extra few cents to go to the Gas N Wash. The free car wash also makes up for it, and I’m doing business with a place that actually wants to sell E85. Speedway, through their continued installation of just one E85 pump (technically two) out of 12-18 makes it clear that they do not care about how hard it is for so many of us to get to the E85 pump. When I finally do make it out to the Pacific Northwest (Idaho and Montana have a max speed limit of 80!), I’ll be carrying at least 20 gallons of E85 in the trunk. I’ll also have to not only call and confirm that they have E85 and that the pump is in working order (had that happen in October where I confirmed they had E85 but got there to find the pump was out of order). As far as E15, I’d be happy to express my feelings via DM. Let’s just say I’m using E85, and only E85.
  10. Well hey, congrats and welcome to the E85 club! As I mentioned earlier, I’m going on 6 years with the stuff. My very first car, a 2008 Chrysler Sebring, was flex fuel. I sold it to my dad when I got my Charger, which I ended up giving up about 3 years later in September 2017. I’ve been struggling without a car, and have been trying to save up for a down payment. Using my dad’s when I can. Oh trust me, I know how to find the cheapest E85 price and maximize the cost benefit. I’ll use E85 no matter what - and will never switch to gasoline under any circumstances - but I won’t shy away from reaping the rewards. Back when the Yellow Hose program (they sell pre-blended E85 directly from an ethanol plant 45 minutes to my west to retailers across Michigan, on the condition that they keep a minimum fixed price spread) had E85 at a $1 below regular, gasoline prices began plummeting. The spread didn’t drop below $1 at these stations until the New Year in 2015, so I got to see some pretty awesome E85 prices! Do you have any idea how weird it was to see, and how hard it was for a then 21-year-old kid to wrap his mind around, the Total Gallon amount exceeding the Total Sale? Trust me, I only had $12 at the time, and I still can’t believe even 4 years later that I couldn’t stuff $12 worth of fuel in a 19.1 gallon tank. Last June, I had someone challenge me on Twitter to find a lower E85 price than he had. He found $1.27. Darned if I didn’t make a 90-minute each-way trip to the downriver Detroit community of Woodhaven to get $1.17 (before a 3 cent/gallon discount). I take E85 challenges seriously. Oh and as for E10 being that cheap in February 2016, well. Found plenty of that too! Oh and I can personally attest to the fact that this wasn’t an error with their sign. This station in Lapeer, Michigan (which no longer sells E85) really did have a spread nearly $2 in the negative in February 2016. I have a station I always go to in Tinley Park IL any time I’m near Chicago. It’s the Gas N Wash at 19420 South Harlem in Tinley Park (Exit 148A off I-80, right at the Cook/Will county line). Not only do they have 6 pumps with E85, but you get a free top-of-the-line wash when you purchase at least 12 gallons of E85! Feel free to shoot me a message here, I’d love to connect with ya. To make sure we’re on the same page, which road are you talking about in that last paragraph there? Michigan spends the least per capita on roads of any state in the country. So naturally, many of our freeways are poorly designed and are prone to massive pileups. Oh, and we have the highest auto insurance premiums of any state too.
  11. It’s funny, because when I began using E85 back in December 2012, one of the major appeals to it was in fact the fixed price it had (I’ve long since discovered many other benefits to the fuel, that more than make up for losing that fixed price concept). At one point in June 2013, gasoline spiked to $4.29, and E85 was at $2.99 (yes, to all the people complaining that gasoline is getting expensive at $2.99, remember where it was just a few years ago?). However with Speedway entering - and subsequently dominating - the E85 market here around Lansing, a fixed price spread is now the law of the land. So I have to rush to get fuel before a hike like everyone else. I should say, on a slightly unrelated note, I go by South Bend/Mishawaka any time I go out to Chicago. Even though the 80/90 isn’t in the best of shape, it’s not a threat to my personal safety like I-94 in Michigan is. I’ve not kept up on E85 availability in northern Indiana like I used to because of how few interchanges the 80/90 has on it. I have a fuel stop in Tinley Park IL I always go to. Past couple times I’ve gotten fuel in the city of Mishawaka, whose name is hard for me to say without the occasional chuckle, I’ve gotten it at the Marathon on Cleveland Road just off the Indiana 331 exit. Good to see you guys have some competition.
  12. After much waiting, we got two more Speedway stations with E85 that raise an eyebrow for a couple reasons. In Lansing: This Speedway station is about 300 feet from a Meijer station which filled in a sizable E85 gap in the area back in September 2014. Until now, Meijer has only set competitive price spreads when Speedway had exceptional price spreads elsewhere in the area (back when it was close to $1). That was due to a lack of direct competition in that part of the area. Now however, Meijer is competing directly with Speedway. Good to know though that Speedway still doesn’t care how hard it is for some of us to get to the E85 pump. I guess they can only be bothered to install one pump out of 7 double-sided pumps. Heres the station info: Speedway 6041 South Pennsylvania Avenue Lansing, MI 517-318-3327 Latitude: 42.669459915038 Longitude: -84.537767171860 ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ and the other location, in Charlotte, fills in a major gap to the southwest of Lansing. I’ve been wanting E85 in Charlotte for a long time. This makes 17 total E85 stations in the Lansing metro, and 10 Speedway locations with the fuel. Here’s the info: Speedway 687 Lansing Street Charlotte, MI 517-543-5800 Latitude: 42.574242030048 Longitude: -84.821791648865
  13. Can we merge La Porte and Laporte, Indiana? Two names for the same city. Correct spelling is La Porte, with the space.
  14. On my stroll off the toll road back in March, I went back east to intercept the Eastern/Central Time Zone sign at the 80/90 toll road, when I happened to run into this Marathon station owned by the chain Gallops. They have been adding E85 and trucker conveniences (i.e. diesel exhaust fluid) at several of their stores. Marathon 1877 West US-20 La Porte, IN 219-362-8505 Latitude: 41.685903095650 Longitude: -86.737406551838
  15. Because there aren’t a million places to buy diesel, EZMart, which acquired the Blodgett Shell chain in Michigan a few years back, has been replacing E85 at several stores with either diesel or E0. The Shell locations in Ithaca and Mount Pleasant now sell diesel, and the location in Coleman sells E85. All 3 no longer sell E85.
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