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  1. I was just reading my Farm Bureau Spokesman Brazilian CropWatchers report to see how the crops are progressing down there. One item reported that hydrous ethanol(the kind you burn at 100% in Flex cars)was down 13% and anhydrous was down 4% for the year. It got me to thinking about how this scenario works. You run the fuel tank down to a couple of gallons or so of either hydrous ethanol or 25% gasoline/ethanol mix(all Brazilian gas is about 25% ethanol) and then refill with the other fuel since the car is flex. What happens to the hydrous ethanol, does it stay separate or blend with the 25% in the tank? Going down the road with fuel sloshing around, could the fuel pump get a gulp of hydrous and then a gulp of 25% intermittently?

  2. Here is a question for 1outlaw on the co-products of corn ethanol. I stopped at the plant I had my mother put some money in that should be up and running next fall. I asked why nobody is going to the quick germ process of removing the germ before fermentation yet. The guy said they're thinking about it but it's very expensive---$20 million for a complete setup and $5 mil for just removing the germ and sending it somewhere else to get the corn oil and other goodies. Do you guys over in WI think it's time to start doing it up front vs. at the back end? I think the guy told me yesterday corn oil one step down from food grade was around 65 cents a pound. By doing it up front you get twice as much,high priced oil vs lower quality 20 cents a pound oil off the back end process. I said my vote would be to do the up front process---do you think I'm wrong? We do tend to have corn with a higher oil content over here also.

  3. When I say invest, it could be a little or a lot. In my case, little is the word. ;D The first plant I put money in back in 2001, I should have sold everything I owned and borrowed everything I could but hind sight is 20/20. This plant has some common board members with the first plant and the manager started in a different position at the first place and moved up by changing location. All the ethanol is marketed by the same big outfit at both places and is railed out, although both have truck load outs. I think one truck has been loaded in 5 years at the first place. Methane is coming from the landfill and is being metered into the natural gas line. I think they're still fine tuning that process. I'm telling my farmer friends that haven't invested in ethanol or biodiesel that they're in the drivers seat because of suckers like me. Last night on "Market to Market"(agriculture TV show that interviews commodity brokers) the prediction is for $7 corn and $15 to $20 soybeans. If that happens I'll make it big as a farmer and lose it as an investor.Oh yeah, you guys might want to keep an eye on VSE(VeraSun) again----it's dropped almost $6 a share in the last 3 weeks. :o ;D

  4. This is an article from Truthout


    Two separate news reports relying mostly on information provided by the Pentagon were picked up and disseminated by US mainstream media outlets Monday. The reports point to two separate instances involving US armed forces operating in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz.


        The first, typified by The New York Times, "US Describes Confrontation With Iranian Boats", and the second, tucked away from the features sections, "Navy Fighter Jets Crash in Persian Gulf", reported by the Associated Press, are not connected directly in the reports, but bear consideration side-by-side nonetheless.


        The report in The Times, in fact, tells you everything you need to know, albeit in a conclusionless form. US Warships are in the Persian Gulf. The Strait of Hormuz, through which all warships must pass to enter the Gulf, is the same passage through which all oil-bearing ships must pass bringing oil to the US. And "Oil prices on world markets spiked briefly on the news, which was first reported by CNN." That pretty much says it all.


        US Navy warships are parked a few miles off the coast of Iran. They are there, apparently, to protect oil shipping lanes into and out of the Persian Gulf. Tensions are mounting. If provocation is at issue, those facts must remain front and center. If Iranian warships ever made it as close to the American coastline as US warships now lie to Iranian shores, our military would in all likelihood attack them. Iran is not attacking our warships - parked on their doorstep.


        The US State Department last year warned Iran, "not to interfere with US interests in the region." What the State Department did not explain to the American people is what interests average Americans have in the region. The answer to that question is, likely none. That leads to the next question: whose interests is the American Navy protecting in the Persian Gulf? The owners of the oil tankers, apparently. The American people are the end consumers; we pay what's marked on the pump. Bluntly stated, the United States Navy appears to be in the Persian Gulf to protect the interests of US-based oil businesses, not the interests of the American people. Incidentally, the second-largest deposits of oil in the world lie beneath the soil of Iraq, so the same formula applies there as well.


        Could Iranian forces sink an American ship a few miles off the Iranian coast? Yes, although it is highly unlikely that they would say beforehand, "I am coming at you, and you will explode in a few minutes." Would such a sinking take the lives of many good American sailors? Yes, it would. Such a sinking and the attendant loss of life would affect the best interests of the American people. The American armed forces are the true interest of the American people. For too long, the American people have turned a blind eye to their interest: their service members. It's time to bring our soldiers home and let the gas station mind its own business.

  5. Dairies are going up here also because of distillers grains. There are people putting up hog houses on 4 acres deeded to them by the land owner. In return the land owner gets the manure---that's all. This last spring the elevator here bought a lot of potash from up in Canada as there was talk of a strike. Little did they know the dollar was going to do what it did---looked really good by fall. I read an article where a guy said to hedge natural gas when it dips to cover nitrogen costs.

  6. If you guys like looking at how plants are doing, here are some more. Pull up SEC filings and then look at the 10Q's.BTW amzenergy is getting ready to take money on a plant they want to build at Atlantic Iowa. It will be an LLC and if you look at their SEC filing you will see they did a good job of marketing. I'm in Little Sioux and Corn LP.---the best and the worst for making money on the list below.






  7. Here is a little from their newsletter that is online.

    The other addition for the ?08 year will be the offering of an E85 blend for use in our local fuel markets. Granite Falls Energy views this as diversification, support of our industry on a local base and hopefully lead to better pricing at the pumps for our community thru transportation savings. We are hoping to be able to work with local retail facilities to supply an excellent and consistent quality E85 for the local consumer. This along with the possible use of blender pumps, which allow the consumer to select the best blend of ethanol to unleaded gasoline for peak performance in their flex fuel vehicles, makes for a very exciting time ahead. Have a very happy new year.




    Indy VettesHistory will be made at the 2008 Indianapolis 500 when not one, but two distinctive vehicles will serve as the official pace cars.


    Chevrolet and Indianapolis Motor Speedway officials gathered at the Indianapolis Auto Show Thursday to make the announcement.


    One of the pace cars is a customized Corvette Z06 E85 concept that runs on E85 ethanol fuel that will be driven during the race?s pace lap by two-time Indianapolis 500 champion Emerson Fittipaldi.


    The other official pace car is a black-and-silver commemorative edition that marks the 30th anniversary of the celebrated 1978 pace car ? the first Corvette to pace the field at the Indianapolis 500. Chevrolet will produce a total of 500 pace car replicas in both coupe and convertible form, each signed personally by Fittipaldi at the Corvette?s Bowling Green, Ky., assembly plant.


    ?Although not a production FlexFuel vehicle, the Corvette Z06 E85 concept pace car is a high-performance example of Chevrolet?s gas-friendly to gas-free initiative, demonstrating viable fuel solutions,? said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. ?As an ethanol refiner in his native Brazil, Emerson Fittipaldi is the fitting Chevrolet champion to help support GM?s efforts with E85 and celebrate 30 years of the Corvette pacing the Indianapolis 500.?

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  9. This from the newsletter I get from a biodiesel plant that I invested in. It is using animal fats and yellow(restaurant)grease to make BD since soy oil is artificially high. Corn,beans and wheat are tied together to compete for acres planted. When you here people complaining about food prices, it's more Wall Street than anything else now.


    It takes more than seven pounds of soybean oil to make a gallon of biodiesel. So just a penny a pound jump in the soyoil price causes a seven-cent hit to a biodiesel producer?s per gallon cost. Because the soyoil price has jumped nearly a dime a pound in less than a year, it?s a major drain on the whole biodiesel industry?s pocketbook and WIE is no exception. Strangely enough industry indicators seem to show that this should be a good time for biodiesel producers. Soybean stocks in the United States are at their highest level in three years. Soybean production in Brazil, Argentina and other South American countries are projected to set records this year. By most measures, soyoil prices should be dropping however, at more than 45? per pound, prices are higher than  _____  any time in the past 10 years and are forecast to go higher. The high prices are caused by anticipated demand rather than current demand. The last time soybean oil prices even approached 30? per pound was in 2003. Soybean markets at that time were very tight. The soybean crop in 2003 was generally considered to be poor, and the demand was strong. Consequently, soybean stocks fell to a low level that year, which affected the soybean oil production. The USDA forecasts that soybean oil prices will continue to rise and could maintain a higher than expected average price during 2008. Fortunately, both crude oil and heating oil prices have increased, which has resulted in a corresponding increase in what we can charge for our biodiesel, thereby softening the impact of increased soybean oil costs.
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