Lets Be Clear- Ethanol as E10 is not an Alternative Fuel in General E85 Discussions Posted April 12, 2008 · Report reply DragonWhip, You do a good job of putting into words what I think also. Another thought, I had a guy fly through here a few days ago that was returning to California in a new to him airplane. He's not really on the ethanol bandwagon because of gov. mandates. He is a contractor and small hay producer on the side. He was telling me about the $160 a ton hay he was selling to the alpaca people. I asked what alpacas were good for and he said the wool but mostly they're pets. It got me to thinking----how many acres are used to feed useless animals in this country, dogs,cats, horses,etc.?