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  1. I actually am ticked off that I bought some E0 premium to run in my hit-n-miss engine early last winter and ended up also using it in my snowblower. Near then end of the season I put some Stabil/E0 gas mix in it. Now the carb linkages are sticking, tacky green crap in the venturi, and it will not even try to fire unless I give it a shot of ether. I am going to have to tear down this carb and find the obstruction.

    Last dang time it will ever see E0---7 years on E10 without a single issue but one year on E0 is just like the old days of sticky crap in the bowels and passageways before E10. >:(

  2. GIO..it's a question I have wondered about as well everytime I started looking at used Chevy Volts..



    I think I posted something along those same lines when Chevy decided not to make the Volt E85 capable ...I wondered if it had anything to do with fuel (E85) sitting in the fuel tank for possibly months whle drivers stayed with in the 35 mile electric range







    I was more concerned with the phase separation possibility..


    A total non-issue with E85 in the tank Dan. Modern auto fuel systems are sealed AND E85 can absorb a ton more water than E10- thus taking nearly infinity to phase separate in a Volt tank. I also would park my 2wd S10 FFV for 5-6 months in the winter with E85 in it and it to this day still has the original fuel pump, composition sensor, fuel sender, and all other fuel components in it. Racer friends have stored E85 in sealed drums and 5 gal sealed plastic jugs for a year to insure full E85 summer blend so they do not affect carb settings- they do not leave it in open systems such as carbs and vented fuel cells however. The larger issue in the Volt is likely that the cold start cycles on E85 could have caused just a bit more emissions in that mode. The other issue is just that GM did not see a market clambering for E85 in such a fuel sipping car and would have just experienced more costs in emissions testing.

  3. I am a huge fan of strict no-till with it's benefits to water absorption and soil structure- saw the benefits at several farms this year in the drought. Also a huge fan of building organic matter- particularly in the low CEC soils we have here. All that said however- there are places, crops, and soil types where some organic matter can be harvested even to some agronomic benefit (if nutrients are replaced). One can go too far however- corn silage removal (takes 90% of OM) is very tough on clay soils particularly with conventional till and the soil compaction that always occurs with harvest equipment and trucks/heavy wagons.

    Sadly here on the irrigated sands where we have maybe <1/4% OM (organic matter) - we do all we can to destroy OM so that the canning companies get clean products (free of stems/foreign matter) on low growing crops. Some growers add humic acid or humates to compensate- it provides a soil electrical bonding site for calcium, potash, and to a degree- N so that they do not leach. We also put liquid K and N on through carefully timed applications via irrigation throughout the season so as not to overapply and lose nutients (vs normal row crop 1 or 2 pre or post plant applications). These are reasons to maintain some reasonable level of soil om.

  4. You can see just from the two terminals I show below that oil companies have a very wide spread from one terminal to another- no consistancy. Sorry that it does not paste in here so well- count the products over from the left- then count the prices from the left to line up. If ---- is shown, then that is a product price position to also include in the count from left. Note some terminals price a 5 cent spread (about 3 for the ethanol and 2 for the cheaper lower octane base) versus other terminals with a 9-20 cent spread.


    511 MPLS/ST.PAUL, MN                                                          Date: 10/26/2012 10:29:34 AM

                              AXXIS Petroleum Gross Price Report Without Superfund

    Supplier                      NO2-LS  NO2ULS  UNL-87  PRM-91 PRM-92  U87E10  P91E10  P92E10  ULC10  P92C10  P91C10

    ----------------------------- ------  ------  ------  ------ ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------

    Contract Average                ----  3.2190  2.7006  3.0465  ----  2.6145  2.8307  2.8872  2.6158  2.8088  2.9405



    513 ROCHESTER, MN                                        Date: 10/26/2012 10:29:34 AM

                    AXXIS Petroleum Gross Price Report Without Superfund

    Supplier                      NO2-LS  NO2ULS  UNL-87  PRM-91  U87E10  P91E10  ULC10  P91C10

    ----------------------------- ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------  ------

    Contract Average                ----  3.2023  2.7153  3.0552  2.6778  2.8609  2.6818  2.7763



  5. 40cent/bushel/comparable yields... sound great.


    I'd look for this sort of deal to take off in Ethanol country...  thanks for the inside info...

    It will be concentrated in the western corn belt at first- it likely will not go into most of WI and many parts of IL, IN, Ohio due to, as Cessna says, proximity to snack corn processors. The other reason for starting in the west is that is where the amalyse corn trials are occurring (KS, IA, NE) and where the growout begins. I came very close to working for these guys running the trial grind plants ;D

  6. I have been really encouraged of late- worst fields were taken for dairy forage and what it left looks way better now that the outer rows are gone in these dryland fields. Irrigated is super except where they got behind watering due to equipment problems or due to time of day restrictions from electricity providers.


    A huge help has been the improvement in drought tolerance in corn and bean varieties over the last 20 years. We had far worse drought here and especially worse heat (causes sterility in corn) than 1988 but back then it was a  widespread 100% crop loss- today we have far better results. We still have 0 on a few fields but we also have 1/2 a crop on most which would have been totally wiped out in the past on these pure sand fields. Also- in S. IN. where I grew up- they started out as a wipeout drought but the variety improvements kept the plant alive until rain finally came late and light. When I was down there a month ago things had turned and a pretty fair crop was coming- especially beans which are even lighter. However- central IL is key (like IA) due to crop density and normal yield >220bu) and it looked pretty sorry. A good friend there was only planning for 100 bu/acre.

  7. On some two stroke carbs you can bend the metering lever a bit to open the needle valve a bit more (under or next to the fuel/air signal diaphram). Not sure it they still make 'em that way but the old ones we raced where that way and so was a 20 year old one I took apart last year. It is likely not as good as drilling jets/ports but will add fuel.

  8. Keep in mind that the motor octane test protocol is appropriate for gasoline but not alcohols. The test requires the intake air/fuel temps to be elevated to a high level. What do we know about alcohols? - -- they get their knock resistance from the cooling effect on vaporization. To have to heat this vaporized mix for the official motor octane test is to counteract the very property that gives ethanol (or any alcohol type) it's high resistance to knock. This is why you see everything from the crazy low 94 (motor-not r+m/2) E85 ratings to 105 or to 119 on pure. One race gas supplier did a lot of lab testing on their E85 blend and conservatively put their mix at 112. 


    Octane by it's nature is only about gasoline (it once was the fossil component of gas that was being compared against).


    A better measure is to look at allowable compression ratios that drag racers or other performance guys typically use it at. Most common E85 race engines in bracket drag are 13 or 13.5:1 while a few have even reached 16:1 with the right cam/head setups. Pump grade E85 typically replaces 110-112 octane race gas. Some racers blend their own to a consistent spec and doing so replace an even higher octane race gas such as 114.

  9. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

    One year ago, I stopped 2x at the Renew station in Waupaca and both times they had at least 2 vehicles using the pumps.  The second time I pulled in, a  County Police vehicle pulled in behind me and utilized the pump.  Just over a week ago, I was traveling from the Dells area and stopped across the street  at Culvers for quick refreshment and never saw a vehicle pull into the old Renew station.  What a shame.


    The Rhinelander price spreads still stands as I made my last fillup before returning to the Southwestern Pa area soon.

  10. The reply from Mike Hammond is interesting. He says that he worked for Ethyl Corp and that ethanol from petroleum has been added to gasoline since the 1950's and that it isn't a problem, just corn ethanol is. Hope he responds to my reply and explains the difference between corn and petroleum ethanol.


    As you pointed out- ethanol is ethanol regardless of feedstock. Likely what Mike totally confused himself with was ETBE- which is an ethanol based product less toxic than MTBE from methanol. Mike's job there was likely non-technical or in a different area because this is not difficult to keep straight. Maybe that is why the company I worked for once upon a time left Ethyl Corp to go to a different company who had better tech people and better chemistry for the additives we used.


    Here is a link to ETBE / MTBE:  http://www.biofuelstp.eu/etbe.html


    It is always interesting that no one ever had problems with open vented fuel tanks and portable cans around marine environments and with saws and other small engines. The repair industry must have all been born since ethanol was introduced in the last 4-16 years (first in MN and then CO) ;D

  11. There are 2 FFV's in the driveway with over 220,000 miles each on them- nearly all E85 and not one fuel system part replaced yet. ;D There is a 96 Silverado with a 226,000 miles and a new fuel pump though- only E20 thru E50 in it though.


    Hey Tink- you mean a Magnafuel filter right? Stainless screen? What micron?

  12. Biggest issue for dairy and beef producers around here is not going to be corn- not even close. # 1 issue that is going to hurt cattlemen will be forage to keep the ribs apart- corn will not help that unless they take it for corn silage (which they are trying to do but nitrates in this stressed corn will be toxic with nitrates). I care about cattlemen- I could give a rat about big pig and big chicken with the likes of Tyson and other integrators. I am even more concerned about quanity and quality of this years vegetable crops--it just is not out there. Semi-loads of green beans, sweet corn, peas,  and carrots should be rolling thru my town 2-4 minutes apart 24 hours/day. I have seen two trucks- the 106 degree temps ruined even the irrigated crops. It is too early to know about potatoes.

  13. Most likely variance in odor is due to the gasoline components added. When the gasoline component is ultra low sulfur natural gasoline (usually almost all C5 pentane) then the nice wiskey odor will dominate. When they use crap pump gas for blending the nice wiskey smell is reduced and overtaken by a gasoline/sulfur compound/skunk odor. The odor is made worse when the crappy pump gas version gets old and the sulfur starts making some fine acids. Even worse when the cold weather blends come and gasoline component % increases. -  'Least thats my 2  ;D

  14. Just think of the money some ethanol plants might be making right now. I don't know anything for sure but the middle of June is when the corn market bottomed out in recent history. If some savvy plants bought a lot of corn on the CBOT and are riding it up, things might be great at these prices. I guess distillers grain is very high since it is in big demand also.


    While that is possible that a few are taking those kind of risks- I am doubtful. 2008 pretty much changed the landscape to back to back trades, meaning E-plant contracted your corn last May for July delivery and then on the same day E-plant certainly locked in the ethanol and most likely tried to lock the distillers too. The distillers would be the most likely unhedged.

  15. BJoe- dont feel like the "lone stranger" ;D  I watched all the pre-race and race - there was maybe one comment about it the whole time (how the fuel allowance was decreased slightly) - and I was really listening for it.


    Allchar - I did a little fire safety training for a fire department- they like to observe the police as they approach a scene- if the trooper is down or running they suspect an alcohol fire. If the see yellow flames/choking black smoke she's gas, and if he's standing still- it is safe to go in. ;D 

  16. Tester yes -  but might be easier to change jets in the carb than hauling fuel (if running common type carbs- not sure about your Q-Jets though). Would that be 4 jet sizes from 70 to 51%  (6 from 85%) Thumpin?

    I wonder at that wide of a spread if it starts to mess with idle enough that idle feed restrictors and other items will need to be messed with if just passing through (not staying in area where this stuff is). What do you think Thumpin?

  17. Thanks for that post Steve-O. Particularly sheriff's departments were lamenting the loss of "The Vic". Hopefully this car will be serviceable for them.

    Update: took a moment to read up on this unit- AWD, 78mph rear crash tested, 20% better fuel economy than the Crown Vic, looks pretty awesome.  :)

  18. So E85 is becoming a pretty big f#$*ing joke.  Good luck ever getting a true E85 engine now.  Can you imagine what would happen if 'gas' pumps put out gas or diesel depending on what ever whim the person had who last filled it?!?  It's not much different when you get E51, E60, E70, E85 - or who knows what else.


    I do not like this either Corey- at least for the carb'ed race/performance guys (and mechanical injection/or map only). However- from the viewpoint of daily driver FFV's it dont matter much since E51 and E85 cooling properties are little different provided again-the tune is AFR adjusted.

    I see no reason for this allowance and find it to be confusing. When would it ever pay the retailer to be at E51? It has been a long long long time (interpret as a very long time ;D ) since ethanol cost was higher than gas- years in fact. Back in 2002-2003 during the winter time gas would drop under ethanol but that was before the industry was built and when ethanol was primarily only used in winter blend gasoline.

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