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Posted 25 December 2015 - 03:24 PM

I've been doing some more studying of RaceTrac's operations, and I think this topic is long overdue for some dusting off.

 

RaceTrac has modified the way in which they do business. RaceTrac began adding E85 at any new or remodeled stores at the close of 2013. Looks like their first E85 store was the store on Ferguson in Dallas along with the store in College Park GA, right next to Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. However, around this same time, they began adding ethanol-free at some new and remodeled stores as well. So up until just a couple months ago, it was gasoline, diesel, and EITHER E85 OR Ethanol-Free at every pump. And compared to stores up here, RaceTrac stores are HUGE. It is nearly unthinkable to have 18-24 pumps at one station, except for the occasional truck stop that is well outside of densely populated areas. So in the same way that E85 is available at every pump at the stores which carry it, helping to dramatically increase sales, E0 was also available at every pump at stores which carry that. We're not talking at one pump, or at a pump which is either hidden or at the back of the property like what we have up here, but E0 at 24 pumps. From what I've seen, ethanol-free appears to be priced just above premium (93 octane) E10. At this point, I honestly find myself asking, why bother carry E10? Most stores had 87 octane E0 put in, but some RaceTrac/RaceWay stores got 89 or 90 octane E0. 

 

Ethanol_Addict and I have been talking about this, and he brought up a good point. 89 or 90 octane are not very comparable in terms of cost-effectiveness with 87 octane. Many folks would think "well, I don't need 90 octane for my lawn mower or my boat" (so in a way, this is a double edged sword - it could also increase 87 octane E0 stores). But with a higher octane, folks can point to this increased octane as the reason for the increased cost. Now however, with 87 octane, people may be more likely to realize that the lack of ethanol is the reason for the price premium.

 

But, in September, EA and I found what appeared to be an anomaly. I found a store that had just opened in Naples Florida, which added BOTH E85 and Ethanol-Free. I first asked the attendant if they carried E85. He replied that they do. So I then clarified and asked, "so you guys don't carry ethanol-free" - at which point he told me they carry both - half E85 on one side, and half E0 on the other. I was stunned. I called again later to verify. Ethanol_Addict did the same. Since then, we have had several more stores open which carry both. Honestly, I would rather a store carry both E85 and E0 than just E0. And when you're talking 12 E0 pumps and 12 E85 pumps, that's still more E85 access than almost any store up here would provide. We now have RaceTrac stores which carry both E0 and E85 in Naples, Daytona Beach, Bradenton, and Largo in Florida. Another store is in the works for the city of Wesley Chapel, expected to open soon. In Georgia, we now have two stores with this setup, and we also have two in Louisiana. 

 

To top it off, RaceTrac has actually converted some stores to E85. I can honestly say that I have never heard of a store converting E0 over to E85, especially not a chain of this size. But so far, I have counted three of them. Stores in Sarasota Florida, and Norcross Georgia, have both converted their ethanol-free tanks and pumps over to E85. This to me is huge. This to me means that RaceTrac knows how to make E85 profitable and wants to sell the fuel.

 

RaceTrac, much like Speedway in their expansion, has brought E85 in these setups (at 18-24 pumps in each station) to states which otherwise didn't have very effective E85 coverage, or had hardly any at all. For example, digging through the topics here on the forums, I found a topic where the poster was wondering when E85 would come to the Bayou State. Now, not only do we have several stations, but we have RaceTrac stores which have it at multiple pumps. I have also found a topic where someone was lamenting the lack of E85 in Louisiana's capitol city

 

I am on top of multiple leads, and are checking in on them from time to time.

 

Here is what I want to know: where the heck were these stores when I went down to Florida for the National Ethanol Conference in 2014?!? (I wouldn't mind going to the one in NOLA in February, but I'm unable to pay for it) RaceTrac has stores in Jacksonville, Daytona Beach, Melbourne, Orlando, and in Ocala. ALL of these stations would have made that trip immensely easier. In fact, I ran out of fuel right around where the Orlando store was built. 

 

I encourage everyone to check out my RaceTrac spreadsheet, listing every store in the chain, and highlighting stores which have E85 as well as stores which have E0. You can find it by clicking here. In a separate post, I will remunerate the stores which have been added since the last update here. 


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Posted 21 May 2015 - 09:19 PM

Speaking of RaceTrac adding E85, and that being refreshing, we have two more listings.

They have added a ton of E0 stores in Florida, and I have just found a couple E0 stores in Louisiana. However, in Orlando, a new RaceTrac location has opened with E85.

RaceTrac
350 Sand Lake Road
Orlando, FL
407-856-7897

I also had received a lead on a new RaceWay location in Texas. Someone had listed the wrong number on the GasBuddy listing, and both Ethanol_Addict and I kept getting someone who had no idea what we were talking about. Thankfully however, I got the right phone number, and confirmed that it does indeed carry E85.

RaceWay
11801 SH-6 South
Sugar Land, TX
281-565-0445

As the ol' Dan would say, now listed and ready for prices!
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-Listen pal, we tell it like it is. Somebody is bugging me, I let 'em know. And yeah, maybe that's why I like animals. They tell it like it is. Woof, moo, quack. That's straight shootin'! -Frank Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond (episode: "The Bird")
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Posted 25 March 2015 - 07:46 PM

EthanolAddict was kind enough to drive down to Waxahachie, Texas, to confirm that we have a new E85 RaceTrac.

With RaceTrac adding SO MANY E0 stores, it's refreshing to see them finally add E85.

RaceTrac
1110 North US-77
Waxahachie, TX

It is now in the database.
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Posted 23 February 2015 - 10:29 AM

Thanks for the updates guys..will get listed today



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Posted 21 February 2015 - 05:39 PM

Got a couple more for ya. I'm investigating another lead which seems to be a duplicate listing.

RaceTrac
16300 Airline Highway
Prairieville, LA
225-673-2004
Latitude: 30.304534934429
Longitude: -90.973207354546

RaceWay
105 Champion Drive
Batesville, MS
662-561-0065
Latitude: 34.310582365757114
Longitude: -89.91112232208252
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-Listen pal, we tell it like it is. Somebody is bugging me, I let 'em know. And yeah, maybe that's why I like animals. They tell it like it is. Woof, moo, quack. That's straight shootin'! -Frank Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond (episode: "The Bird")
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Posted 31 January 2015 - 07:20 PM

Done.. Tanks Aaron.. good to see these Mid Size Chains adding E85



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Posted 30 January 2015 - 12:31 PM

Here's another one for you for when you get a chance, Dan.

 

RaceTrac

665 GA-53

Calhoun, GA

706-629-4897

Latitude: 34.47393940528892

Longitude: -84.92407768964767


Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars. -Casey Kasem
E85 is less than a dollar per gallon!!!
View May thru July 2016 prices
-Alcohol belongs in cars, not humans. -Me
-2012 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar V6
-Listen pal, we tell it like it is. Somebody is bugging me, I let 'em know. And yeah, maybe that's why I like animals. They tell it like it is. Woof, moo, quack. That's straight shootin'! -Frank Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond (episode: "The Bird")
-I fail to see how you fail to see that it's AWESOME! - Hiro, Big Hero 6

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Posted 26 January 2015 - 01:47 PM

Hey D-dawg, found another one. I had a hard time reaching the folks at this location, but I eventually got through to them.

 

RaceTrac has taken a similar commitment to adding E85 at all new builds and remodels like Meijer and Speedway have, except RaceTrac is adding either E85 OR ethanol free at their stations. Florida is evidently full of gullible people. Just about every new RaceTrac build down that way is adding ethanol free instead of E85. Why do retailers go from one extreme to the other?

 

Florida is not the only state with an extensive marine/RV/boating community... and yet, they seem to have a bigger problem with ethanol than Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia combined. Seriously, I would think Gulf coast folks would be elated to be donating 10% less of their money to the industry that befouled the Gulf of Mexico. Yes, I understand that it was BP, but their contractors were at fault as well.

 

Should I be commending RaceTrac or condemning them?

 

Anyways, rant done. Here are the details.

 

RaceTrac

3010 NE Pine Island Road

Cape Coral, FL

239-995-1110

Latitude: 26.681920466649

Longitude: -81.905543804169


Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars. -Casey Kasem
E85 is less than a dollar per gallon!!!
View May thru July 2016 prices
-Alcohol belongs in cars, not humans. -Me
-2012 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar V6
-Listen pal, we tell it like it is. Somebody is bugging me, I let 'em know. And yeah, maybe that's why I like animals. They tell it like it is. Woof, moo, quack. That's straight shootin'! -Frank Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond (episode: "The Bird")
-I fail to see how you fail to see that it's AWESOME! - Hiro, Big Hero 6

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:21 AM

Investigating another lead, I found one in South Carolina.

 

RaceWay

4019 East Palmetto Street

Florence, SC

843-679-9500

Latitude: 34.197827017204

Longitude: -79.681434631348

Really like seeing the South getting more E85..hopefully change some attitudes as well 



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:54 AM

Investigating another lead, I found one in South Carolina.

 

RaceWay

4019 East Palmetto Street

Florence, SC

843-679-9500

Latitude: 34.197827017204

Longitude: -79.681434631348


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Keep your feet on the ground, and keep reaching for the stars. -Casey Kasem
E85 is less than a dollar per gallon!!!
View May thru July 2016 prices
-Alcohol belongs in cars, not humans. -Me
-2012 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar V6
-Listen pal, we tell it like it is. Somebody is bugging me, I let 'em know. And yeah, maybe that's why I like animals. They tell it like it is. Woof, moo, quack. That's straight shootin'! -Frank Barone, Everybody Loves Raymond (episode: "The Bird")
-I fail to see how you fail to see that it's AWESOME! - Hiro, Big Hero 6




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