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CBOT ethanol prices for next 3 months

20 Mar 2017

Posted by Billyk24 in E85 in the News

Up two cents a to $1.56.  Price spreads of 10 cents exist in Southwestern Pa.  It doesn't look like much improvement in headed this way.

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E85 pumps being replaced with E15 ?!

16 Sep 2016

Posted by Black Knight in General E85 Discussions

So I have heard that there are quite a few stations replacing all their E85 pumps with E15. Does anyone know the story behind this? What is going on?

 

Is this the beginning of the end for E85?

 

So far thankfully I have seen no changes in Colorado but I know I won't be using E15 if all the E85 pumps here are replaced with E15 - at that point, might as well use E0 or E10 and get the better fuel mileage since 5% more ethanol in regular fuel is well... nothing. That and all the E10 pumps say "may contain up to 10% ethanol". So guessing that E15 might be no different than E10... they could probably just mark the E10 pumps as E15 and use the same "may contain up to 15% ethanol"... so... i'd use whatever is less expensive at that point.

 

Not sure how well this would go over around my neck of the woods replacing E85 with E15. I see so many people using E85 - from soccer mom's in big flex fuel SUV's to enthusiasts that converted their vehicle to run on E85 - I actually see alot of that here, almost every time I stop for fuel someone with a modified turbocharged vehicle is filling up with E85.

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Anyone have a Chevy Volt running on E85?

25 Jan 2015

Posted by TD in Hybrid HEV

I decided I'd like to upgrade from a hybrid vehicle to a Chevy Volt. I like, no LOVE the idea of 36 to 50 miles (2016 model) of EV range at speeds up to 80 mph before switching to the ICE. Most hybrids can't do much over 40 mph without the ICE kicking in. And you can't sneeze at the 37 mpg highway mileage (50 expected on the 2016 model).

 

Early Volt models required premium with a 10.5:1 CR, but the 2016 has 12.5:1 with direct injection, yet runs on regular unleaded, due to EGR. Either one would be a great candidate for E85, although some users have 2k miles on the ODO with half of the original tank of gas remaining. I'm not sure about the 2016 model with direct injection and aluminum block, but the older ones said premium gas only with up to E15 allowed.

 

As much as I'd LOVE to have the direct injected 2015 model with the larger, lighter battery, possibly cheaper price and longer EV range, I suspect I'll be lucky to get a 2013 model, due to my wife retiring in a few months and having to live on one income and trying to sell her townhouse.... But it looks like I could trade up to one with about $5k to boot so about $500 a month for a year. I suspect I could pull that off, but there's that little voice from my wife screaming, "NOOOOOOOO!".... :huh:

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Feature request

09 Feb 2017

Posted by TD in E85Prices.com Android APP

I have a couple of things that I'd like to see fixed in the Android app.

 

Stations listed under "Favorites" have no city or state. If you travel, it's difficult to figure out what station is where.

 

Station details shows the previous price, but no mention when the prices were posted.

 

Otherwise it's been working good for me.

 

Thanks.

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Kwik Trip moving forward on Nature Gas pumps

27 Jan 2017

Posted by Billyk24 in General E85 Discussions

Stopped in a Kwik Trip station and found a number of brochures stating this company is committed to building a natural gas infrastructure in Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa areas in the coming years.  Not sure if they have started and/or where they are in the process.  Not convinced this is a cost effected change for rural areas where as E85 conversions are simple and cheap in comparison.  

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Tesla Model 3

06 May 2016

Posted by jeepn30 in Electric Vehicles EV

This could be an interesting shift in the electric car paradigm.  Looking at the preorders, the demand is there.  I have followed this company before the Model S even came out.  I am  still amazed that they have brought an electric car to market, despite efforts of big oil and franchise dealers in this country.  I test drove one a couple years ago, and must say the Model S was phenomenal.  I just couldn't justify the price of one.  Upscaling production for the Model 3 will be their biggest test.  They have made good on what they said they were going to do so far (Roadster, Model S, Model X), although they have not made any of their deadlines.  I put my deposit down on one before the online launch on March 31st, as I feel I will be in the market for a car when it finally comes out.  I don't expect to see mine until 2018 or 2019, and I'm fine with that.  Regardless of outcome, this will be their most important car in their company, as it will make or break Tesla in my opinion. 

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NEW STATION- Hartland, Michigan

17 Jan 2017

Posted by James48843 in Announce New E85 Stations

new: now open as of 1-17-17

 

Speedway 

10070 Highland Road

Hartland, MI  48353 

 

phone: (810) 632-5950 

 

prices today:

 

E10:  $2.36

E85:  $1.86 

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Most Outlandish Ethanol Articles

16 Jan 2017

Posted by wardnkathy in E85 in the News

I thought I would start a thread to discuss outlandish and incorrect news articles and opinion articles.

 

For a long time, the craziest story I had seen was a story in the KC Star about how ethanol was causing the price of movie popcorn to increase. It was obviously absurd since the cost of the corn in movie popcorn is such a small amount compared to the price they charge that the corn price could go through the roof and not make a dent in the price the theater charges. Now I have seen an article that has so many things wrong that you have to realize it must be on purpose. You can read this titled Ethanol Is an Enormous 'Social Justice' Mistake. You can read it at http://www.theintell...ustice-mistake/. I think the only things it gets right is that currently most ethanol is made from corn and that V2 rockets used ethanol for fuel.

 

Add your thoughts and nominations for most outlandish ethanol stories to this thread.

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Rhinelander Kwik Trip adds another station!

21 Nov 2016

Posted by Billyk24 in Wisconsin E85

New E85 Kwik Trip station:

1539 N Stevens St

Rhinelander, Wi 54501 715-362-6083

 

Was there last week as I visited and assisted my ailing mother who lives in the area.    E85 sold for $1.75 while E10 was $2.13.  There are four "blue" E85 pump handles for use.    This new Kwik Trip is less than two mile away from the other station and both are busy. 

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Retrospect Carbon Studies

15 Sep 2016

Posted by fleebut in General E85 Discussions
John Decicco's latest study of ethanol is worse than gasoline for carbon intensity has prompted my thoughts on what CI studies often miss or make wrong assumptions. Decicco for example makes an  assumption that corn for ethanol is a displacement of the normal crop. That farmers some place must plant more corn to accommodate the non-ethanol market shortage. He assumes the historical disruptions during the ethanol production years of farming is a direct result of ethanol RFS. That the farm production system is static and the farmland would be merely expand or contract acres per ethanol. Also, that the plantings all do in fact convert CO2, so, that conversion must be subtracted from ethanol. Meaning if they did not plant corn for ethanol they would plant corn for feed or just another crop. These anti ethanol calculations always assume Land Bank is pristine grassland, but per my observation around here the land is sick with sparse weeds and of no value except for federal subsidy. Besides the land is supposed to be “farm land”. Meaning if and when the farmer decides to farm the land, that is just the way it is. Remember the snapshots of space orbit that labeled the highest areas of photosynthesis. It wasn’t temperate jungle, it was the mighty corn fields converting CO2 to starch and fibre.  

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