Topic: Colorado gets new Station and I went on a Rant (Read 1313 times)

James48843 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2008, 08:33:51 PM »

Quote from: Greengenes on July 08, 2008, 02:03:31 PM

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I'd like to put together a pamphlet of some sort containing the talking points and complete with up to minute data for folks to review. Something that discusses energy balances and economics of the various feedstocks , all the way to what is needed to optimize the current IC engine to burn E85. It would be great to start distributing these at E85 fuel distributors and maybe some skeptics could be provoked into doing their own research instead of what they hear from the media or the local talk-show host...

A good place to start for facts is here:
http://www1.eere.energy.gov/biomass/ethanol_myths_facts.html

It's a compilation of facts to seperate the chaff.

TinkerFreak · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2008, 04:13:36 PM »

Denverites call it "27 square miles surrounded by reality."

Dan M · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:56:00 PM »

I'm sure most folks(the quiet going about their lives majority) in Boulder as any other City are capable of making intelligent decisions despite the noise from the vocal minority that think they always know best . The Boulder Station will do fantastic business despite the vocal minorities whinning

Quote from: hotrod on July 08, 2008, 03:45:41 PM

The Boulder area is locally called the "peoples republic of Boulder" for a reason. They are often in their own little ultra green ultra left universe. They intentionally limited parking development years ago to "not encourage cars", and then bitch because the people that have to use cars to work their don't like the bicycle riders running 3-4 abreast on the street. It has a very large "if you don't agree with me you are a moron and a capitalist pig mentality, that would mesh well with some areas of California.

Larry

hotrod · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:45:41 PM »

The Boulder area is locally called the "peoples republic of Boulder" for a reason. They are often in their own little ultra green ultra left universe. They intentionally limited parking development years ago to "not encourage cars", and then bitch because the people that have to use cars to work their don't like the bicycle riders running 3-4 abreast on the street. It has a very large "if you don't agree with me you are a moron and a capitalist pig mentality, that would mesh well with some areas of California.

Larry

TinkerFreak · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2008, 03:44:16 PM »

Dan, you sound shocked about people arguing and disagreeing on the internet

. Try having them steal, mess up, and then discredit your hard work because "they couldn't do it." LOL.

Dan M · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2008, 02:22:04 PM »

Pretty amazing the hatred and complete nonsense posted by most of those posters ..and yes it's mostly rehash of nonsense they heard from the media outlets

Quote from: Greengenes on July 08, 2008, 02:03:31 PM

Dan,
This is Boulder, Colorado we're talking about, right?? These are folks who tend to
be abit earthy , until you watch them drive off down the road in their BMW, Benz's,
etc.

I don't want to apologize for their lack of intellect here, but I think it is something like
a solution that "was not created here" and so they tend to turn their nose up at it...

This is one of the first communities in the state to introduce recycling , even tho it
doesn't work out financially, and yet they're spouting off about all of the money going
to support ethanol. I've kinda given up trying to reason with them or understand them,
as it seems to take alot of energy going over the same points.

I'd like to put together a pamphlet of some sort containing the talking points and complete
with up to minute data for folks to review. Something that discusses energy balances and
economics of the various feedstocks , all the way to what is needed to optimize the current
IC engine to burn E85. It would be great to start distributing these at E85 fuel distributors
and maybe some skeptics could be provoked into doing their own research instead of what they
hear from the media or the local talk-show host....

Greengenes · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2008, 02:03:31 PM »

Dan,
This is Boulder, Colorado we're talking about, right?? These are folks who tend to
be abit earthy , until you watch them drive off down the road in their BMW, Benz's,
etc.

I don't want to apologize for their lack of intellect here, but I think it is something like
a solution that "was not created here" and so they tend to turn their nose up at it...

This is one of the first communities in the state to introduce recycling , even tho it
doesn't work out financially, and yet they're spouting off about all of the money going
to support ethanol. I've kinda given up trying to reason with them or understand them,
as it seems to take alot of energy going over the same points.

I'd like to put together a pamphlet of some sort containing the talking points and complete
with up to minute data for folks to review. Something that discusses energy balances and
economics of the various feedstocks , all the way to what is needed to optimize the current
IC engine to burn E85. It would be great to start distributing these at E85 fuel distributors
and maybe some skeptics could be provoked into doing their own research instead of what they
hear from the media or the local talk-show host....

conservativemale · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2008, 12:54:59 PM »

Hi Dan,

I read all of those postings, some people just don't have a clue.

Dan M · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:27:46 AM »

Coolorado has done sucha fantastic job in getting E85 up and running and at great prices ..and yet people continue whine and bitch and slam ethanol..half of them dont know any better and the other were probably paid by OIl

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008/jul/07/boulder-proper-get-first-e85-pump/#comments