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Re: 1999/2000 Ford Rangers

Today at 10:03:36 PM by 1outlaw

Quote from: mDub on Today at 01:24:05 AM

I just filled up my 99 Ranger today and noticed a difference in it's lower RPM pulling. Specifically, I was driving over the continental divide and I could get up some of the steep sections in 4th gear without bogging down. Before I would run about 3800 RPM in 3rd getting up...

Re: 1999/2000 Ford Rangers

Today at 05:25:44 AM by hotrod

That is pretty typical, for some reason E85 pulls load better than gasoline will, and is one of the reasons you get better fuel mileage than you would expect just looking at fuel BTU content.

Larry

Re: 1999/2000 Ford Rangers

Today at 01:24:05 AM by mDub

Re: Corn ethanol will never displace any meaningful quantities of gasoline or diesel

Today at 09:54:56 PM by 1outlaw

Sorry Guys- I thought everyone had seen this monster called Kudzu that is like Jack's beanstalk. My cousin lives in the far NE tip of Tennesee near Kingston. This weed took over beautiful forests like a massive wild grapvine infestation (also not around the upper midwest)- you cannot see the trees for the mass hanging over them-choking out light to...

Re: Corn ethanol will never displace any meaningful quantities of gasoline or diesel

Today at 04:47:16 PM by E.B. Cornburner

Quote from: Dan M on Today at 12:08:32 PM

I had to look up "kudzu" Cheesy

You and me both! It's one of those words that just make you chuckle. Kind of like yogurt, garbanzo, and kumquat. Cheesy

Re: Corn ethanol will never displace any meaningful quantities of gasoline or diesel

Today at 12:08:32 PM by Dan M

Quote from: 1outlaw on Today at 11:37:02 AM

http://www.wdef.com/news/cleveland_tennessee_based_kudzu_ethanol_preparing_for_production/07/2008

Interesting and I am hopeful yet a bit doubtful- to get 7.5 lbs of ethanol from 10-11 lbs of kudzu sounds like a bit of hype for financing.

Re: New E85 Stations Kansas

Today at 09:26:44 PM by Dan M

Quote from: richard123 on Today at 08:03:49 PM

Hope you don't mind. I found 11 new E85 stations in Kansas that are not on your list.

These were located at http://www.ksgrains.com/ethanol/e85.html
and reported last updated on 03-25-08.

Jump Start
601 S Summit St
Arkansas City, ...

Re: New E85 Stations Kansas

Today at 08:19:42 PM by Dan M

Thanks Richard..will get them listed by morning

New E85 Stations Kansas

Today at 08:03:49 PM by richard123

Re: Colorado gets new Station and I went on a Rant

Today at 08:33:51 PM by James48843

Quote from: Greengenes on Today at 02:03:31 PM

...

I'd like to put together a pamphlet of some sort containing the talking points and complete with up to minute data for folks to review. Something that discusses energy balances and economics of the various feedstocks , all the way to...

Re: Colorado gets new Station and I went on a Rant

Today at 04:13:36 PM by Gran Touring Labs

Denverites call it "27 square miles surrounded by reality." Wink

Re: Colorado gets new Station and I went on a Rant

Today at 03:56:00 PM by Dan M

I'm sure most folks(the quiet going about their lives majority) in Boulder as any other City are capable of making intelligent decisions despite the noise from the vocal minority that think they always know best . The Boulder Station will do fantastic business despite the vocal minorities whinning

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Re: Now 168 ethanol plants on-line

Today at 07:37:31 PM by Billyk

A Costka cellulose plant is under construction in Southwestern Pa. It will supply GM with C85 fuel and also operate as a demonstration plant for other interested in the technology.

Re: Now 168 ethanol plants on-line

June 29, 2008, 07:40:56 PM by HunterMount

Its funny that we don't see a Plant in NJ. Are they to dependant on the Oil refining operations? Refineries, Port Fees for the tankers that drop off the Crude oil, I'm not sure what else but I'm sure the state gets some pretty nice taxes from all of that.

What about PA? Are they still digging in the dirt for Coal?

Now 168 ethanol plants on-line

June 02, 2008, 06:15:43 PM by James48843

Here is the list of the 168 ethanol plants currently making product, as well as a list of those under construction, along with their output data:

http://www.ethanolproducer.com/plant-list.jsp

As of last month, 9.8 billion gallons a year production capability.

Re: New E85 Station: Ocoee, FL

Today at 02:04:11 PM by Dan M

Quote from: richard123 on Today at 12:59:42 PM

Hi Dan,

Just wondering if you got this one or maybe forgot:

Turkey Lake Service Plaza
Florida's Turnpike - Mile Marker 263
Ocoee, FL, 34761

http://e85prices.com/florida.html

Got it Thanks Richard ..I s...

Re: New E85 Station: Ocoee, FL

Today at 12:59:42 PM by richard123

Hi Dan,

Just wondering if you got this one or maybe forgot:

Turkey Lake Service Plaza
Florida's Turnpike - Mile Marker 263
Ocoee, FL, 34761

New E85 Station: Ocoee, FL

Yesterday at 01:09:10 PM by richard123

This was located on http://www.foodandfuelamerica.com/

Turkey Lake Service Plaza
Florida's Turnpike - Mile Marker 263
Ocoee, FL, 34761

The article goes on to state "The Turnpike service plazas at Port St. Lucie/Ft. Pierce and Pompano will add ethanol later this summer."

Re: E85 at Idaho Springs, CO

Today at 07:01:13 AM by Dan M

Quote from: mDub on Today at 01:08:23 AM

I moved to the Breckenridge, CO area and now have a station at least somewhat close (at least closer than Denver) in Idaho Springs, CO. I didn't see it on the list of CO E85 so I thought I'd post it! Info:
Western Convenience, 2630 Colorado Blvd, Idaho Springs CO.

Re: E85 at Idaho Springs, CO

Today at 05:13:07 AM by hotrod

Cool! I can go to the mountains and fill up on the way home, or on the way out of town!

Now all we need is an E85 station near Avon or Eagle area.

Larry

E85 at Idaho Springs, CO

Today at 01:08:23 AM by mDub

Re: any comments on this bankruptcy news in ethanol plants

Today at 02:35:21 AM by hotrod

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I believe there is something undermining success because with oil at $140+ and gas around $4 we should have a ripe market for E85 and a higher demand for FFVs.

I agree and am inclined to think it is simple ignorance on the part of the general public (the media has made absolutely zero effort to put out the facts on E85)....

Re: any comments on this bankruptcy news in ethanol plants

Today at 01:32:24 AM by mpersell

WSJ and other commentary today seemed to think that the speculation around oil is getting a little weary of the heat. WSJ even mentioned the term 'topped'. Saudis are going to lower prices. Even thinking that investment in Barnett Shale has peaked.

Commodities are down, banks are down and the Dow is down. Kind of odd altogether. Commo...

Re: any comments on this bankruptcy news in ethanol plants

Yesterday at 10:16:05 PM by hotrod

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Biodiesel producers have been struggling for over 2 years BUT on the ethanol side -while Renova did fall as they ran out of financing in their new plant construction and Ethanex did too (if i remember Ethanex was more of a trader/speculative ethanol investor type) I am not hearing much else going on other than some are struggling to finish...

Cost for a Station to convert to E85

Yesterday at 09:57:29 PM by James48843

Here is a document that outlines the cost for a gasoline station to convert to selling E85.

If they simply choose to convert an existing tank, the costs are relatively low. Everyone sells premium. But what if YOU'RE a station owner, and want to bring customers to your station? How about forgetting the premium, and selling E85 instead?...

Re: Subaru Materials Degradation

Yesterday at 05:18:10 PM by hotrod

They just wear out faster and have slight corrosion issues, so the expectation is that they will fail more or less normally at slightly earlier point in time. Stock pumps last for upwards of 150,000-200,000 miles, the walbro's in E85 usage have already see in excess of 40,000 miles on some cars. Even if they all fail at 50,000 miles it is no big de...

Re: Subaru Materials Degradation

Yesterday at 10:50:38 AM by ngnetzky

hotrod, thanks for your answer.

If there were to be issues with the fuel pump on e85, what would be the most likely cause? The lack of lubrication? Or, the overworking of the fuel pump? Because from my little research on this subject, I've heard people bring up both points on why a fuel pump might fail on e85.

Re: Subaru Materials Degradation

Yesterday at 02:44:57 AM by Gran Touring Labs

Fact of note: My new Walbro makes NO noise like my old Walbro. The older models had a whine to them that got worse as they got older. A lot of 255s did it, too. What changed? You could hear them internally over any exhaust at idle but mine is about factory quiet. Larry knows that Walbro whine also, that's why I mention it.

I was wat...

Re: frustrated

Yesterday at 01:00:05 PM by Dan M

Quote from: Corey872 on Yesterday at 12:46:14 PM

I suppose that is the key - the stations will only show up when the economy allows it - or maybe a little later. Now, how long will that take? I don't know. Hopefully, some methods of ethanol generation beyond corn will be on line soon and will make the process more e...

Re: frustrated

Yesterday at 12:46:14 PM by Corey872

Re: frustrated

Yesterday at 11:58:21 AM by DragonWhip

From following Dan's news, the country has added 400 more fueling stations so far this year with another 400 under construction to finish the year for a total of 800 additions. Also there is an outfit that said they were going to build a string of stations along the east coast. If the economy allows the east coast to build then you shouldn't have t...

Beaver Dam Wi ..United Coop selling E203-E30 ..and E85

Yesterday at 12:47:26 PM by Dan M

Looks like the blender pump rollout continues

With rising fuel prices, flex-fuel vehicles (FFVs) and E85 have become even more popular. Those who use E85 like the lower price verses regular gasoline; however, some experience a decrease in fuel economy. In order to give FFV owners choices that may be more economical for their vehicle,...

The power of corncobs..Chippewa Valley Ethanol

Yesterday at 12:34:14 PM by Dan M

Chippewa Valley Ethanol

This fall, the Chippewa Valley Ethanol Co. will go in search of the humble corncob. A $150,000 state grant will help the central Minnesota farmers' cooperative test two collection systems to gather the small, scratchy harvest remnant: one that rides piggyback on a combine and one that follows behind.
It's th...

Re: 1967 Plymouth Barracuda: What To Do?

Yesterday at 11:18:38 AM by MoonshineCuda

Inronic my first post is in reply to another Barracuda owner! Just found the board and find it's loaded with info. Glad to be here.

I accomplished my conversion on my 74 in 2005 and wrote a couple of articles on the process for DragNews Magazine for the January and March 06 issues. I did a very simplified conversion, essentially openi...

Re: 1967 Plymouth Barracuda: What To Do?

June 30, 2008, 06:01:59 PM by rusty70f100

Running lean only helps with power if it was running richer than the ratio at which it makes max power, which is richer than stoichiometric. So if you gained power after putting a little more ethanol in it, either:

1. It was set up too rich to begin with, or
2. it's all in your head, or
3. it was pinging before and now it isn'...

Re: 1967 Plymouth Barracuda: What To Do?

June 30, 2008, 04:18:55 PM by Corey872

I'll put a few comments inline below:

Quote from: Archlab on June 30, 2008, 02:38:50 PM

thanks for the info. Since I'm always a bit impatient when I get a wild hair, i went & bought a gallon of E85
($3.75/gal @ Texaco intersectn of S.Cobb & E-W Connector, Smyrna,GA). I put it into the tank of the 67 BCuda & W...

Re: South Dakota

Yesterday at 10:46:05 AM by Corey872

Not to hijack this thread, but you mention lat / long errors. Do all of the stations in the database have lat/long numbers?

The reason I ask is that for my trip this weekend I downloaded a "Points of Interest (POI)" file for my GPS. This allows me to search for E85 stations within a distance from my current location or along my route. ...

Re: South Dakota

Yesterday at 09:51:13 AM by Dan M

RD just so you now these are all Lat/Long errors and can be fixed ..just waiting for the map developers to get done so I can work in the database withoutwalking over eachs toes .. I did change lat/long for Brookings ..blue marker/push pin now showing

Quote from: Dan M on July 06, 2008, 03:13:06 PM

Aber...

Re: South Dakota

July 06, 2008, 03:17:00 PM by Dan M

Elk Point added ..thanks RD

Quote from: rdaretired on July 06, 2008, 02:12:02 PM

Dan M

I missed this one.

The following does not appear on the map nor is an option to select:

Kum & Go #615
32562 477th Ave
Elk Point, SD 57025
605-356-9453